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What the heck is China doing in Utah? And Why is the Mormon Church Involved in this?
Hotair ^ | 03/27/2023 | Jazz Shaw

Posted on 03/27/2023 8:59:23 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: DesertRhino

Huntsman SPEAKS Chinese....

Of course John Huntsman Jr speaks and understands Mandarin Chinese. He served a two year church mission to Taiwan beginning in 1979.

He did unfortunately endorse Mitt Romney for President when he dropped out of the race in 2012. That pretty much pegs him as an establishment Republican.


21 posted on 03/28/2023 3:05:29 AM PDT by wita (Under oath since 1966 in defense of Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness)
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To: SeekAndFind

The text says “How the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints ties into the picture is less clear”

I think it is likely the LDS Church is trying to be engaging rather than judgemental.

Their motivation is christian missionary work.

If you want to condemn a church for seeking missionary work in a communist country ... than I believe that you inadvertently condemn Christ himself, as he taught us to love one another as ourselves ...

... which I’m pretty sure is regardless of age, color, sex ... or country.


22 posted on 03/28/2023 3:31:11 AM PDT by teppe
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To: teppe

Mormons are not Christians.


23 posted on 03/28/2023 3:46:46 AM PDT by Norski
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To: SeekAndFind

Mormonism began as an anti-government sex cult.


24 posted on 03/28/2023 4:00:55 AM PDT by MuttTheHoople (The best slaves put their own chains on )
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To: DesertRhino; Georgia Girl 2; TigersEye; Organic Panic; Captainpaintball; Jonty30; Valpal1

All of you this very weekend have a unique opportunity to learn more about The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints than some members know.

Through the miracle of the Internet you can tune in to the General Conference of the Church and know more than you now know and who knows, perhaps your definition of the word cult may change.

Stranger things have happened.

https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/event/april-2023-general-conference?lang=eng

Those not mentioned don’t need to feel left out, you just weren’t pulling at my cult strings like some of those on the guest list.


25 posted on 03/28/2023 4:26:50 AM PDT by wita (Under oath since 1966 in defense of Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness)
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To: MuttTheHoople; Norski

Add two more to the guest list.

I question such statements without proof of any kind. Perhaps an invitation to what is believed would help?

https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/event/april-2023-general-conference?lang=eng

Shirley one would never turn down an opportunity for learning?


26 posted on 03/28/2023 4:34:25 AM PDT by wita (Under oath since 1966 in defense of Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness)
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To: Valpal1

They’re not one of us.


27 posted on 03/28/2023 4:50:16 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.q at)
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To: SeekAndFind

I was married to the daughter of a Mormon couple for 14 years. Ooh boy...


28 posted on 03/28/2023 5:02:10 AM PDT by dware (Americans prefer peaceful slavery over dangerous freedom)
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To: Norski

The average Mormon really believes they’re Christians but they’re not.


29 posted on 03/28/2023 6:32:30 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

That’s actually correct.


30 posted on 03/28/2023 8:01:12 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: TigersEye; Elsie
That's true .... Mitt should be selling $3 bills from The Kirtland Safety Society Anti-Banking Corporation...


31 posted on 03/28/2023 8:05:52 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: wita

To Mormons who believe that Mormonism is Christianity: Do you

Still believe that God used to be a man?

Lives near planet Kobol?

And has a lot of spirit wives?

And that the Lord Jesus Christ is Lucifer’s brother?

To those trapped in this, please understand:

Jesus is God. He created Lucifer, now known as Satan.
Genesis 1:1 and Mark 1:1 and 24, and John 1:1-24:

“1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men. 5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
6 ¶ There was a man sent from God, whose name was John. 7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe. 8 He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light. 9 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. 10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. 11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not.

12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. 14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

You cannot do enough good works, have enough children, baptize enough dead people, or wear enough layers of magic underwear to get to heaven. And that magic underwear will not protect you from the fires of Hell.

The only way to get to Heaven and avoid the fires of Hell, is to trust on the Lord Jesus Christ, who is the Son of God, and who is God, who died for your sins and mine, that we may avoid hell and be reconciled to God the Father.

John 14:6 “6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. “

Joseph Smith was a witch, a diviner, a magician, and a Freemason. All occult practices condemned by God in the Old Testament, and Mormon temples are covered with witchcraft symbols.

Come out of this. You are being lied to and used by a hellish, satanic system.

May the Lord God show you the way through His Son, the Lord Jesus Christ, and grant you salvation and peace.


32 posted on 03/28/2023 12:53:49 PM PDT by Norski
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To: SeekAndFind

They’d like that to happen in the USofA; too!


33 posted on 03/28/2023 3:17:33 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: teppe
Their motivation is christian missionary work.

The

Doctrine and Covenants

 Section 75

Revelation given through Joseph Smith the Prophet, at Amherst, Ohio, 25 January 1832 (see History of the Church, 1:242–45). The occasion was that of a conference previously appointed. At this conference Joseph Smith was sustained and ordained President of the High Priesthood. Certain elders, who had encountered difficulty in bringing men to an understanding of their message, desired to learn more in detail as to their immediate duties. This revelation followed.

1–5, Faithful elders who preach the gospel will gain eternal life; 6–12, Pray to receive the Comforter, who teaches all things; 13–22, Elders will sit in judgment on those who reject their message; 23–36, Families of missionaries are to receive help from the Church.


1 Verily, verily, I say unto you, I who speak even by the avoice of my Spirit, even bAlpha and Omega, your Lord and your God—

2 Hearken, O ye who have agiven your names to go forth to proclaim my gospel, and to bprune my vineyard.

3 Behold, I say unto you that it is my will that you should go forth and not tarry, neither be aidle but blabor with your might—

4 Lifting up your voices as with the sound of a trump, aproclaiming the btruth according to the revelations and commandments which I have given you.

5 And thus, if ye are faithful ye shall be laden with many asheaves, and bcrowned with honor, and glory, and immortality, and eternal life.

6 Therefore, verily I say unto my servant aWilliam E. McLellin, I brevoke the commission which I gave unto him to go unto the eastern countries;

7 And I give unto him a new commission and a new commandment, in the which I, the Lord, achasten him for the bmurmurings of his heart;

8 And he sinned; nevertheless, I forgive him and say unto him again, Go ye into the south countries.

9 And let my servant Luke Johnson go with him, and proclaim the things which I have commanded them—

10 Calling on the name of the Lord for the aComforter, which shall teach them all things that are expedient for them—

11 aPraying always that they bfaint not; and inasmuch as they do this, I will be with them even unto the end.

12 Behold, this is the will of the Lord your God concerning you. Even so. Amen.

13 And again, verily thus saith the Lord, let my servant Orson Hyde and my servant Samuel H. Smith take their journey into the eastern countries, and proclaim the things which I have commanded them; and inasmuch as they are faithful, lo, I will be awith them even unto the end.

14 And again, verily I say unto my servant Lyman Johnson, and unto my servant Orson Pratt, they shall also take their journey into the eastern countries; and behold, and lo, I am with them also, even unto the end.

15 And again, I say unto my servant Asa Dodds, and unto my servant Calves Wilson, that they also shall take their journey unto the western countries, and proclaim my gospel, even as I have commanded them.

16 And he who is faithful shall overcome all things, and shall be alifted up at the last day.

17 And again, I say unto my servant Major N. Ashley, and my servant Burr Riggs, let them take their journey also into the south country.

18 Yea, let all those take their journey, as I have commanded them, going from ahouse to house, and from village to village, and from city to city.

19 And in whatsoever house ye enter, and they receive you, leave your blessing upon that house.

20 And in whatsoever house ye enter, and they receive you not, ye shall depart speedily from that house, and ashake off the dust of your feet as a testimony against them.

21 And you shall be filled with ajoy and gladness; and know this, that in the day of judgment you shall be bjudges of that house, and condemn them;

22 And it shall be more atolerable for the bheathen in the day of judgment, than for that house; therefore, cgird up your loins and be faithful, and ye shall overcome all things, and be dlifted up at the last day. Even so. Amen.

23 And again, thus saith the Lord unto you, O ye elders of my church, who have agiven your names that you might know his will concerning you—

24 Behold, I say unto you, that it is the aduty of the church to assist in bsupporting the families of those, and also to support the families of those who are called and must needs be sent unto the world to proclaim the gospel unto the world.

25 Wherefore, I, the Lord, give unto you this commandment, that ye obtain places for your afamilies, inasmuch as your brethren are willing to open their hearts.

26 And let all such as can obtain places for their families, and support of the church for them, not fail to go into the world, whether to the east or to the west, or to the north, or to the south.

27 Let them aask and they shall receive, knock and it shall be opened unto them, and be made known from on high, even by the bComforter, whither they shall go.

28 And again, verily I say unto you, that every aman who is obliged to bprovide for his own cfamily, let him provide, and he shall in nowise lose his crown; and let him labor in the church.

29 Let every man be adiligent in all things. And the bidler shall not have place in the church, except he repent and mend his ways.

30 Wherefore, let my servant Simeon Carter and my servant Emer Harris be united in the ministry;

31 And also my servant Ezra Thayre and my servant aThomas B. Marsh;

32 Also my servant Hyrum Smith and my servant Reynolds Cahoon;

33 And also my servant Daniel Stanton and my servant Seymour Brunson;

34 And also my servant Sylvester Smith and my servant Gideon Carter;

35 And also my servant Ruggles Eames and my servant aStephen Burnett;

36 And also my servant Micah B. Welton and also my servant aEden Smith. Even so. Amen.


34 posted on 03/28/2023 3:20:10 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: wita
All of you this very weekend have a unique opportunity to learn more about The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints than some members know.

Or you can just wait for that damned ELSIE to show up in this thread and have the AUDACITY to post stuff from authentic LDS sources!

--Mormon_Wannabe_Dude(Hail Joseph!)



35 posted on 03/28/2023 3:22:26 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: wita
Perhaps an invitation to what is believed would help?

And finding out from what source(s) these beliefs emanate would be interesting as well.

36 posted on 03/28/2023 3:24:34 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Norski
Kolob is a star or planet described in Mormon scripture.                             
Reference to Kolob is found in the Book of Abraham.
 
 "If You Could Hie to Kolob", the hymn
 
 Kolob as the inspiration for Kobol in Battlestar Galactica
 
From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kolob
 
 


 
 
 
 
 
FigureJoseph Smith Explanation[52]Explanation by non-Mormon and Mormon Egyptologists (quotes are from Deveria)[25][43][53]
1Kolob, signifying the first creation, nearest to the celestial, or the residence of God. First in government, the last pertaining to the measurement of time. The measurement according to celestial time, which celestial time signifies one day to a cubit. One day in Kolob is equal to a thousand years according to the measurement of this earth, which is called by the Egyptians Jah-oh-eh."The spirit of the four elements (according to Champollion), or rather of the four winds, or the four cardinal points; the soul of the terrestrial world. This god is always represented with four rams' heads, and his image has certainly been altered here. — They have also evidently made a very clumsy attempt at copying the double human head of the god figured above, fig. 2, instead of the four rams' heads. The word Jah-oh-eh has nothing Egyptian in it; it resembles the Hebrew word [redacted] badly transcribed." (emphasis in original) The name hieroglyph above the central figure is Chnm-Re, the Egyptian "First Creator" god who organized everything out of the primordial chaos.
 
 
From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Abraham
 
 

37 posted on 03/28/2023 3:28:52 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: 21twelve

California, too. Haven’t they boasted their ties to China as having such a large economy, larger than that of most nations?


38 posted on 03/28/2023 3:29:26 PM PDT by Faith Presses On (Willing to die for Christ, if it's His will--politics should prepare people for the Gospel)
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To: SaveFerris

I’m going to take a wild guess that the old saw “phony as a three dollar bill” was based on that. lol


39 posted on 03/28/2023 6:29:01 PM PDT by TigersEye (Woke is a cancer of the mind and humanity)
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To: TigersEye

possibly not, as these did work as real means of commerce - for a 10-11 months anyway.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirtland_Safety_Society


40 posted on 03/28/2023 7:07:48 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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