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When Will Stubborn Trump Loyalists Face Inconvenient Truths?
American Thinker ^ | 03/24/23 | Geoffrey Hunt

Posted on 03/24/2023 9:27:50 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Stubborn Trump supporters, especially the most fervent, seem unwilling to challenge the deedless covenant, ask the hard questions that if answered truthfully would confirm that Donald Trump has been a supreme letdown, and his failures -- including the re-election debacle -- self-inflicted.

Promises made, promises kept? Not when it mattered.

Drain the swamp? Spinning around in an airboat.

Trump never cleaned up the FBI, instead hired the Dem sympathizer Christopher Wray as Director, and except for a few gratuitous tweets about his incompetence, left him in place.

Gina Haspel, CIA chief, kept the job until the last day despite the likelihood she was knee-deep with John Brennan in the active sabotage of Trump’s 2015-2016 campaign and incoming president-elect transition.

Trump appointed, then tolerated clueless insubordinates and leakers like Rex Tillerson, John Kelly, JR McMaster, James Mattis, and Gary Cohn, until the damage was done, and Trump’s agenda crippled.

When will unyielding Trump loyalists answer the following questions?

Why did Trump endlessly rail against billions in federal budget giveaways to Dem darlings like Planned Parenthood, and Marxist countries, but signed the bills anyhow?

Why couldn’t Trump get illegal immigration fixed -- beyond executive orders easily overturned — and get Obamacare reversed when he had a Republican Senate and House? Why did Trump let Paul Ryan ruin his platform? Why did Trump deliberately antagonize John McCain knowing McCain would undercut the final vote on debriding Obamacare? Why did Trump willfully persist with a toxic persona, alienating suburban voters that cost him (and us) the House in 2018 and led to the first impeachment and a MAGA agenda declared morte by the Democrats?

Why did Trump never de-classify all the Obamagate documents, and release all of the Biden laptop evidence?

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To: wiseprince

Appreciate it. I think I’ve honed a lot of this because of a coworker of mine. Air Force officer who goes to DC a lot and loves the place, Claims to be a conservative Republican but constantly goes on like this author. Endlessly yammers on about how Trump alienated our “allies” and how his insults and tweeting were so horrid. Believes the election was honest.

Asked me once if I wanted to visit DC. I said I would wait until it was no longer occupied before I visited Sodom on the Potomac.


121 posted on 03/24/2023 10:22:24 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: dforest

They wouldn’t waste time on him if he wasn’t still a threat.


122 posted on 03/24/2023 10:22:57 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: Golden Eagle

The act was typical Trump. He thought he could make a deal but the fact was....... he couldn’t. Mexico is ungoverned and could make no such agreement absent cartel consent.


123 posted on 03/24/2023 10:23:08 AM PDT by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Juneteenth is inequality day )
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To: Golden Eagle

You must have loved Jorge Bush pulling the I’m going to build a fence in 2016 on Hillary’s birthday..

Never got funding..

So, a non Swamp Billionaire had to actually get it going to the wailing and gnashing of teeth by R and D Swampies..


124 posted on 03/24/2023 10:23:35 AM PDT by delchiante
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To: 1Old Pro

Solid point.


125 posted on 03/24/2023 10:24:46 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: Golden Eagle

Make that 2006 Border Fence , not 2016, for Bush on Hillary’s birthday..


126 posted on 03/24/2023 10:25:08 AM PDT by delchiante
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To: McGruff

If I’m still around to vote in 24 and Trump is not on the R ticket, I’ll vote the Biden-Fetterman(Harris-Fetterman) D ticket! LOL?


127 posted on 03/24/2023 10:25:12 AM PDT by GOYAKLA
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To: SeekAndFind

Couldn’t have said it better myself, but have one more thing to add.

We need to return Trump to office as an act of rebellion to the deepstate overlords and the feckless GOPe.

If we want to reclaim our government we start by reinstalling the president they cheated US out of.

Never Trumpers can FOAD.


128 posted on 03/24/2023 10:26:04 AM PDT by Valpal1 (Not even the police are safe from the police!!!)
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To: SeekAndFind

While I was, and remain, disappointed in some of what Trump did, and in some of what he didn’t do, I have a couple of responses to this article:

1) Trump was severely handicapped from Day One because of the universal spewing of hatred toward, and lies about, him from the media and EVERY SINGLE DEMOCRAT. Further handicapping him were significant elements of the (so-called) Republican Party, who either failed to support the President of their own party or outright stabbed him in the back.

2) He came to DC as a legit outsider, yet still had to put people into place in order to be able to run the government. Virtually the only people that he could rely on for advice, as well as to fill those positions, were DC insiders of one stripe or another - and many of them pretended to agree with him and his stated objectives, but lied to him and undercut him (and therefor us) at every opportunity. When/if he goes to DC again, this particular handicap will not be there to anywhere near the same extent.

3) There is really no one who has both the vision of what our government should be doing (and what it shouldn’t be doing), as well as the charisma and force of personality to realistically be able to make that vision a reality. I like DeSantis, and will certainly vote for him if he wins the nomination, but he is Trump-lite. Sometimes the things that he says make me doubt whether he’s a true believer in limited government - though he’s better than any other Republican on that score...other than Donald Trump. Finally, Trump has the unique gift (among pols) of making quick and unpredictable decisions. This is particularly important in the area of foreign policy, and has the effect of making our enemies back down because he induces a complete sense of uncertainty for them.

Is Trump perfect? Nope, just like anyone else. But he is unapologetically pro-American, and he understands how the economy works and how human psychology works better than just about any other pol that I’ve ever seen. He is STILL, despite his flaws and past mistakes, the single best person that we have to occupy the Oval Office.


129 posted on 03/24/2023 10:26:07 AM PDT by Ancesthntr (“The right to buy weapons is the right to be free.” ― A.E. Van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: SeekAndFind

So, ‘American Thinker’ thinks he should go along to get along with the deep state.

Got it.

40 years of that has worked so well


130 posted on 03/24/2023 10:26:16 AM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing Obamacare is worse than Obamacare)
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To: desertsolitaire
If President Trump is elected again, what would be different this term from the previous one, and why?

Having been burned by establishment types like Reince Priebus, Rex Tillerson and William Barr, he would likely make wiser choices when putting together his Cabinet and staff.

131 posted on 03/24/2023 10:26:25 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: SeekAndFind

No matter how “successful” trump was he learend something important: The amount of corruption in the swamp is nearly limitless.


132 posted on 03/24/2023 10:26:45 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: McGruff

People forget or don’t realize that when RDS became governor there were 24 straight previous years run by a Republican in Florida. Rick Scott was our previous governor before RDS.


133 posted on 03/24/2023 10:28:52 AM PDT by lilypad
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To: SeekAndFind
As I've posted before:


Since you've made the Trump appointments a major disputing point, I'll address them all here.

As you may recall, when Obama ran he was faced with the same issue: being an "outsider" (an Illinois creature who won his elections by default, and with only two years in the Senate), he had no "Rolodex," meaning he didn't know anyone to fill out a staff. Bill Clinton had an entire Arkansas machine that he built up and brought with him to DC (including Vince Foster, who became disillusioned and was terminated).

George W Bush, being a Texas politician, inherited his father's political machine, but he still needed the "gravitas" of Dick Cheney to round out his ticket in DC.

Back to Obama, his solution to the "gravitas" problem was, after a long VP search, to select Joe Biden as his running mate. Biden was said to be bringing the DC political connections after 40 years in Congress that Obama lacked. They wanted Biden's Rolodex, and the price for it was Biden himself.

Fast-forward to Donald Trump and we have the same problem. Trump was a Big Donor for sure, but he was on the other side of the check, the writing side and not the cashing side. Trump relied heavily on the recommendations of Reince Priebus for his early appointments, perhaps too much so, but he (in my opinion), didn't know better. He did have a track record of loyalty to his executive staff, but that worked in a corporate setting where the c-level were compensated based on the success of the company. In DC, people are compensated based on the side deals they make from the power of the positions they hold, with lesser regard to the person who got them the position they now hold. In DC, getting the position is key; it's politically much harder to fire some than to appoint someone, because firing someone becomes an attack on the Senators who endorsed the nominee.

This brings us to the particular position of Chris Wray. Mitch McConnell, Lindsey Graham, and others made it clear to President Trump' whom they would support for certain positions, and who was off-limits for being fired. If there were any root-cause for this Sword of Damocles being held over Trump's head, it was his nomination of Jeff Sessions for Attorney General.

Trump was being loyal to Sessions for him being the first DC heavyweight to get on the Trump Train, and made Sessions the Attorney General. Some of us thought that Sessions, while a genial person with Biden-like connections in the Senate, was not a strong personality to hold such an important role in the administration. He may have been an effective Alabama "country lawyer" in his youth, but his casualness didn't serve him well in the federal positions he held until he became a Senator. Sessions would eventually undermine President Trump by so easily being duped by Democrat pressure to recuse himself at the beginning of the Russia hoax, instead of holding strong until he could see beyond the initial headwinds to assess what was really going on.

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If we're going to compare appointments, Biden has:

At least Obama's appointments understood the obligations of omertà.

-PJ

134 posted on 03/24/2023 10:29:02 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: Golden Eagle

This is why Trump is needed. Even the concept of having Mexico pay for it without writing a check is foreign to people who have studied business or government but has never worked in the real world. When people use this attack ita a sign that they are business dumb or tax and spenders


135 posted on 03/24/2023 10:29:16 AM PDT by wiseprince (Me,)
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To: AndyJackson

Judging from the list of articles he has written for the American Thinker, it seems Geoffrey Hunt has been a Never-Trumper since Trump descended the escalator.


136 posted on 03/24/2023 10:30:15 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: Golden Eagle

Apparently McConnell has a head injury. Hopefully he won’t be around long. Blood clot 2023! Biden McConnell and Federman!


137 posted on 03/24/2023 10:31:16 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: delchiante; All
That’s a lot of Swamp before and during Trump that got drained from the FBI...

Trump and his team knew all along how deep and entrenched the swamp is/was. Even back in 2015, and I could argue well before that too.

It's so deep, that to understand the draining of it, one would also begin to understand how much it takes to drain - one term to catch a good deal of the swamp in action (explaining why sometimes DJT hired swamp creatures), another term that appears stolen so that more draining could occur with the Swamp being blamed for it, and a third term where the revealing of the draining will occur.

138 posted on 03/24/2023 10:32:53 AM PDT by C210N (Everything will be okay in the end. If it’s not okay, it’s not the end.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I second your motion. The man was not an insider and i imagine the learning curve for being President is steep when you dont know exactly who youre dealing with. Regardless of that he made many promises and kept many that absolutely mattered at the time. I swear Covid has wiped the memory out of many folks on this site. The man had incredible record going into Covid… and thats where his biggest mistakes were made… same mistakes any person on Earth wouldve made in that position. What makes his success even more remarkable is the constant antagonism from the lifelong DC scum who havent done shit in decades and are simply jealous that someone like Trump did what he set out to do…..


139 posted on 03/24/2023 10:34:35 AM PDT by MrRelevant
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To: dfwgator

When will Never Trumpers admit he was sabotaged at every turn???


140 posted on 03/24/2023 10:35:08 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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