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Why climate ‘doomers’ are replacing climate ‘deniers’
The Washington Post ^ | March 24, 2023 | By Shannon Osaka

Posted on 03/24/2023 8:20:04 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

When Sean Youra was 26 years old and working as an engineer, he started watching documentaries about climate change. Youra, who was struggling with depression and the loss of a family member, was horrified by what he learned about melting ice and rising extreme weather. He started spending hours on YouTube, watching videos made by fringe scientists who warned that the world was teetering on the edge of societal collapse — or even near-term human extinction. Youra started telling his friends and family that he was convinced that climate change couldn’t be stopped, and humanity was doomed.

In short, he says, he became a climate “doomer.”

“It all compounded and just led me down a very dark path,” he said. “I became very detached and felt like giving up on everything.”

That grim view of the planet’s future is becoming more common. Influenced by a barrage of grim U.N. reports — such as the one published by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change earlier this week — and negative headlines, a group of people believe that the climate problem cannot, or will not, be solved in time to prevent all-out societal collapse. They are known, colloquially, as climate “doomers.” And some scientists and experts worry that their defeatism — which could undermine efforts to take action — may be just as dangerous as climate denial.

For his part, Youra has advice for those who are suffering from the same sort of fatalism that he once felt. “Stop engaging excessively with negative climate change content online and start engaging in your community,” he said. “You can be one of those voices showing there is support for the solutions.”

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To: Oldeconomybuyer

_____In short, he says, he became a climate “doomer.”____

These doomers need to get a grip. Undoubtedly, they watch too much junk news on TV. This throws them into panic. Same as Chicken Little with the, “Sky Is Falling”. Covid 19 and global warming are the twin panics of today.
Spurred onward by the WEF and its hack politicians, stooges and pawns in America, Canada, Australia and Europe. Fostering irrational fears is how they/WEF do it.

Wars and nuclear wars are a more realistic matter to worry and fret about.


21 posted on 03/24/2023 9:04:51 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: dfwgator

Nah....

He should join with others that don’t like nasty people...

Or any people.

https://www.vhemt.org/


22 posted on 03/24/2023 9:14:22 AM PDT by L,TOWM (An upraised middle finger is my virtue signal.)
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To: Tell It Right

Its doubtful that crop yields were nearly as good in previous warm periods since we have more CO2 in the atmosphere in this one. While it does not cause much global warming as the failed hypothesis suggests, it is well established it helps plants grow much more abundantly. Moreover, it would be very dangerous to all life on this planet if it got too low.


23 posted on 03/24/2023 9:14:23 AM PDT by AndyTheBear
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To: AndyTheBear
This will solve it.


24 posted on 03/24/2023 9:15:16 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I think calling them Climate Doomers is a great come back.


25 posted on 03/24/2023 9:18:14 AM PDT by xenia ( “The further a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who speak it” George Orwell)
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To: eyeamok

I still remember the plan to mine coal, grind it to dust, mix it with oil and spray it on the glaciers and ice fields to increase absorption of the sun’s rays to stop THE COMING ICE AGE!

Now we are getting more schemes and dreams to stop Glo-Bull Warming.

As an MGM Traveltalks from 1942, on Glacier and Waterton National Parks, said that the earth has been warming since the last Ice Age 12,000 years ago and “If there is no CLIMATIC CHANGE the glaciers will be gone.”

And puny man thinks he can stop that?


26 posted on 03/24/2023 9:33:45 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (“No man’s life, liberty, or property are safe while the legislature is in session.”)
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To: AndyTheBear
Its doubtful that crop yields were nearly as good in previous warm periods since we have more CO2 in the atmosphere in this one.

I don't know much about comparative CO2 amounts across warm periods. Do you have info? I don't doubt you, I just like more info.

One thing I've been doing is reading through the Old Testament again, but this time paying more attention to the time period each part was about, and where it lies in warming and cooling cycles. For example, the Minoan Warm Period began about 1600 BC (some say closer to 1500 BC) and ended around 1100 BC. Moses led the people out of Egypt around 1450 BC. King Saul took the throne (beginning the Era of Kings) at perhaps 1037 BC. That means the Era of Judges occurred mainly in the Minoan Warm Period, followed by the Era of Kings mirroring the Greek Dark Age cooling period.

27 posted on 03/24/2023 9:34:29 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: PeterPrinciple; crusty old prospector; AndyTheBear
> Eat drink and be merry, for tomorrow we die." Just for grins, what is the source for the above?

So there were two transvestites (males dressing as females) who would take turns each evening regarding which of them would dress up, and then they would go on a date. One such evening the first turned to the second, and announced, "Tonight I think I shall eat, drink, and be Mary."

28 posted on 03/24/2023 9:37:10 AM PDT by dayglored (Strange Women Lying In Ponds Distributing Swords! Arthur Pendragon in 2024)
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To: ifinnegan

If an engineer working for me bought any of this global warming horsepucky I’d transfer him out ASAP. He is incapable of logical thought.
Couldn’t fire ‘cause this is CaCaLand — no one gets fired here.


29 posted on 03/24/2023 9:38:20 AM PDT by bobbo666 (Baizuo)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Sean needs to use his brain but he also needs to grow a pair.

Dope.


30 posted on 03/24/2023 10:05:20 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Procrastination is just a form of defiance.)
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To: PeterPrinciple

I thought it was from “Conan, the Barbarian”, but, according to the Wiktionary:

“A direct quote from the Book of Mormon:

Yea, and there shall be many which shall say: Eat, drink, and be merry, for tomorrow we die; and it shall be well with us.[4]”


31 posted on 03/24/2023 10:07:40 AM PDT by VanShuyten ("...that all the donkeys were dead. I know nothing as to the fate of the less valuable animals)
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To: bobbo666

Yes.


32 posted on 03/24/2023 10:09:46 AM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: Organic Panic
From the article it is clearly untreated depression.

Yes, it certainly is. However much I like to mock climate fantasizers this one needs serious help.

33 posted on 03/24/2023 10:12:09 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: dfwgator

It wasn’t that long ago that the fraud of the hockey stick theory was exposed at East Anglia University and it was revealed that even if governments did everything that these environmental fraudsters proposed to reduce global warming, it wouldn’t work, that the climate temperature would only be reduced less than one degree.

How is it that no one seems to remember that?


34 posted on 03/24/2023 10:12:33 AM PDT by Eva
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To: dayglored

Boo. Boo.


35 posted on 03/24/2023 10:13:49 AM PDT by crusty old prospector
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To: Tell It Right

And during one of those Ice Ages there were miles thick ice over NY, Penn, MI, WI, etc. - where did it all go?


36 posted on 03/24/2023 10:34:01 AM PDT by ro_dreaming (Who knew "Idiocracy", "1984", "Enemy of the State", and "Person of Interest" would be non-fiction?)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Sean Youra is a Climate Tard.

Yes, we all like clean air, clean water, a wide variety of animal and plant species, forests, etc. - and we SHOULD do reasonable things to keep (or obtain, if we don’t have them) those things that we want. But the idea that Mankind alone is responsible for shifts in the climate and large-scale natural disasters is completely absurd - so much so that you need to be a particularly stupid and gullible tard, one nearly completely ignorant of scientific knowledge, to believe those things.


37 posted on 03/24/2023 10:42:00 AM PDT by Ancesthntr (“The right to buy weapons is the right to be free.” ― A.E. Van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: AndyTheBear
Isaiah 22:13 NIV - But see, there is joy and revelry, slaughtering of cattle and killing of sheep, eating of meat and drinking of wine! “Let us eat and drink,” you say, “for tomorrow we die!”

The context is Isaiah admonishing the wayward Jews for acting like the pagans.

Paul quotes this verse in 1 Corinthians 15:32 - If I fought wild beasts in Ephesus with no more than human hopes, what have I gained? If the dead are not raised, “Let us eat and drink, for tomorrow we die.”

Paul is arguing that if Jesus did not die on the cross for our sins and to give us everlasting life (John 3:16), we all might as well throw a party as the unbelievers do.

38 posted on 03/24/2023 10:58:34 AM PDT by Gideon7
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To: Tell It Right
Conventional non-polemic estimates put the current CO2 level at about 400ppm (parts per million of atmosphere). For the last few thousand years its alternated between about 200ppm and 300ppm until the fist time it broke the 300ppm barrier was around 1950 and its spiked up fast.

If we go back millions of years CO2 has ostensibly been way higher though and at that scale there is no discernable correlation between temp and CO2 and they both varied by vast amounts that dwarf the little spike-let of today. quick reference

There is a strong correlation between temp and CO2 levels on the scale of ice ages (which is much larger than the time of Moses et al but not of the many millions of years type scale where there is no correlation at all).

The correlation of the ice age is the temp driving the level of CO2. This happens because warm ocean water does not like to absorb CO2 as much as cold ocean water does.

Even though industrial activity has caused the spike since the 50s or so in CO2 from about 300ppm to 400ppm, the amount of CO2 being absorbed and released from the ocean and from plant life is much greater than what people release. What has happened is that we have adjusted the equilibrium by adding to one side of the equilibrium and not the other. However this certainly will not go on forever. Like many many things in nature the equilibrium will catch up with it. For example the CO2 in the air causes more plant mass to grow which eventually causes more Carbon from plant mass to end up absorbed into the plants and then later the soil. When the plants dies some of the carbon gets lost too deep in the Earth to be used by other plant life.

Like has happened in the Ice Ages, the equilibrium will drift one way and then the other. The carbon cycle of plants and ocean water being much larger in scale than industrial additions of carbon to the atmosphere...we have enough power to push it to another equilibrium provided we keep churning our bit of extra carbon into the atmosphere...but we just don't have the power to break out of the opposing forces of the carbon cycle itself.

Bottom line, we can expect as long as we keep churning up the CO2 by our industry that more plants will grow, but we can only increase the CO2 so far. And CO2 even if it is way way higher than now only has a tiny negligible effect on temp. The greenhouse effect of CO2 is in a very narrow frequency band of radiation and that radiation is already well covered by the water vapor which is a significant part of the atmosphere and the only significant player in the greenhouse effect.

39 posted on 03/24/2023 11:04:23 AM PDT by AndyTheBear
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To: AndyTheBear

Thanks for the info. And what you typed at the end about water vapor mirrors what I’ve read a lot over the years from Dr. Roy Spencer in Huntsville, AL (whom Rush used to affectionately refer to as “the official climatologist of the EIB Network”).


40 posted on 03/24/2023 11:30:34 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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