Idiot or not, the fact remains that pro-Russians ruled in Ukraine and the Donbas before the 2014 EuroMaidan Revolution, so there were no separatist talks then. Separatists only began to wage war on their own country (treason by definition) after Vlad invaded Crimea and the Donbas.
Robert DeLong: "Already admitted that Russia seized the Crimean in retaliation for the coup d'etat of the duly elected president of Ukraine.
What you described was absolutely factual, but you fail to see that, what is described is a coup d'etat.
A mob had captured the capitol city of Ukraine...
...that was a real coup you saw in Ukraine."
The treasonous pro-Russian Ukraine president Yanukovych was removed from office by a vote in the Ukraine parliament of 328 to 0.
That is is not a "coup", that is lawful impeachment of a treasonous president.
Robert DeLong: "You also skip right over the fact that neither Putin or the Russian forces moved to capture anything beyond the Crimea at that point in time."
Well, except for Donetsk and Luhansk -- did they fail to teach you about that in your Russian propaganda school?
Robert DeLong: "Don't know who wrote this up in Wikipedia, but it was not an American writer. I can tell because they used the word colour, which is not how an American spells that word, color."
And that is important to you for what reason?
Robert DeLong: "If you would have bothered to watch the short video I linked you to, you wouldn't make such stupid statements, But then again you are not very bright, because you refuse to look at anything that might make you think differently."
I listened to the first few minutes of it and it was all nonsense -- unfiltered Russian propaganda with no evidence, none, zero, nada evidence to support his ludicrous claims.
Robert DeLong: "But the EU said that they would NOT accept his EU agreement if he also made an agreement with any other country.
Yanukovych said he felt like a bride who shows up at the alter to learn that there is a prenuptial agreement, that was never discussed previously, she must sign.
Which is why he didn't sign the EU agreement."
I doubt if Yanukovych was truly surprised to learn the details of his EU agreement, since he was in on it from the beginning.
And why would he suddenly need a new agreement with Russia? What was wrong with the old one?
Robert DeLong: "As the lawful president of Ukraine, Yanukovych absolutely had the right to call in help to restore order in his nation because he didn't have the resources to do so."
And the Ukraine parliament had the absolute right to remove Yanukovych from office for treason against his country.
We call that impeachment, not a coup.
Robert DeLong: "There are those who contend that it wasn't the Ukrainian resources who fired upon the protestors,.
They claim it was Nazis who did it, you know, like our Antifa trouble makers here.
Sadly we will never probably learn the truth as to who actually started the violence.
But they weren't Russian forces.
They were either Ukrainian forces, or the Nazis."
Nonsense. The EuroMaidan Revolution was mostly peaceful, and when it turned violent, there were deaths on both sides.
Who caused those deaths is not known, but your repeated use of the word "Nazi" shows us you are a graduate of Russian propaganda school, and therefore, you are a dedicated liar.
Robert DeLong: "While truth is the first thing that is lost when unrest breaks out, we know for certain that the Donbas region of eastern Ukraine had been experiencing terroristic attacks."
The only terrorists in the Donbas were those treasonous Russian speakers who joined with Vlad's invasion forces to attack Ukrainians there.
With Vlad's substantial help they defeated Ukrainian forces in large areas of Donetsk and Luhansk.
Now am out of time, must run, will come back to this later.
Here's another fact for you, dummy. He was duly elected in what all observers said was a fair & free election. He wasn't elected by some sort of armed threat by the Russian military, or any Russian gang of thugs.
No, that is propaganda. The Nazis, whom you no doubt deny their existence, started waging a terror campaign against them. You have no clue what really went on there. You only have propaganda that you spew forth like projectile vomit. Some day you will learn the truth. Refer to Luke 8:17.
But reality is catching up, and you will be taken by surprise. Then you will realize what I have trying to warn you away from, but it will be too late then. Your family, along with the rest of us, will suffer as a result of your misplaced intelligence that you believe you possess.