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To: Robert DeLong; Republican Wildcat
Robert DeLong: "Whatever it is, I still doubt Ukraine will be victorious in the end.
No matter how you look at it, this was a misadventure that we should not have allowed to progress to the initial invasion to begin with."

Well, first, Ukraine is already victorious because there is now no possibility Russia will ever impose its tyranny over free Ukrainians.
Ukraine will forever be a European country.

Second, 100% the Ukraine-Russia war is a function of perceived & actual American & allies' weakness.
Strong American leadership (i.e., DJT) would prevent the war or end it before things spiral out of control.

As for Russia & China potentially, "Patiently awaiting for the optimum opportunity to take us out, by using an EMP ", the answer to that is the same as it's been since 1945 -- MAD.
MAD has prevented WWIII all these years and will very likely continue to do so.

If MAD fails, then the human race will not survive in our current form.

137 posted on 03/22/2023 5:15:09 PM PDT by BroJoeK (future DDG 134 -- we remember)
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To: Republican Wildcat
Well, first, Ukraine is already victorious because there is now no possibility Russia will ever impose its tyranny over free Ukrainians. Ukraine will forever be a European country.

I think you are being extremely optimistic. Unless you can provide proof, it still looks to me as if Russia has the upper hand, even with American & N.A.T.O. involvement.

I think American weakness is very real, as well as, deeply compromised.

We are currently 31.633 trillion dollars in debt. At the end of 2022 the debt was $30,824 billion (30.8 trillion) & 123% of DEBT-TO-GDP ratio. Which means we have added almost another trillion. Debt Clock - US National Debt by Year

In addition, Biden is hollowing out the military with "vaccine" mandates, of those refusing to take the "vaccine". They claim that they have lost no military personnel due to the mRNA rollout, by adverse events or deaths.

I personally do not believe that is a truthful statement. There have been whistleblowers who have come forth saying that it's not true.

They have also been aggressively seeking out & targeting those who support Trump, identifying them and either booting them out, or placing them in dead-end positions.

Lastly, & most importantly, this nation is being led by either complete imbeciles, or traitors. I might even say, personally, both. But I am confident that they are traitors without question.

Though of course the way you state it; no possibility Russia will ever impose its tyranny over free Ukrainians,has a ring of truth to it. If they are free, then Russia was defeated. I still see no evidence that the final outcome will be Russia being defeated, and thus free of Russian tyranny. Either way, China comes out on top.

What about the tyranny of this country, which I see creeping further & further into becoming the reality. Our defeating Russia, would only cement that reality of tyranny controlling this nation. This conflict is a distraction designed to engage the attention of people away from what is happening to our country.

Do you not see that?

Why would they be concerned about Ukraine's sovereignty, & the integrity of their borders, while they could careless about ours?

Now, if you can show me how you can square that circle with a straight face, then I'll concede my argument to be lost.

147 posted on 03/22/2023 6:34:22 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: BroJoeK
BTW, Mutually Assured Destruction (MAD) was relevant when both Russia & the U.S. were the only nuclear powers in the world. So, MAD is no longer relevant now that more nuclear capabilities exist in today's world, than just Russia & the U.S.

In short, it's an outdated paradigm, and has been for quite sometime now.

150 posted on 03/22/2023 6:44:26 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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