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Report sheds light on disaffiliating churches [UMC]
UM News ^ | March 1, 2023 | Sam Hodges

Posted on 03/02/2023 1:57:07 AM PST by fwdude

A new Lewis Center for Church Leadership report compares characteristics of disaffiliating churches with those remaining in The United Methodist Church. The report draws on data from the denomination’s General Council on Finance and Administration and other sources. Among the findings is that disaffiliating churches are more likely to have a male pastor and to have a majority white membership. Info courtesy of the Lewis Center for Church Leadership, graphic by Laurens Glass, UM News.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Philosophy
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The self-righteousness and contempt for departing congregations just oozes from this writer representing the apostate wing of the UMC. It’s all about race and sex, of course.

What’s not so apparent are the numbers. The departing churches are the large, thriving, conservative churches, so the departure is magnified in member numbers leaving.

1 posted on 03/02/2023 1:57:07 AM PST by fwdude
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To: fwdude

I have personal knowledge of black churches leaving for moral reasons.


2 posted on 03/02/2023 2:05:23 AM PST by Louis Foxwell (We are not fit to live free but must be enslaved to control the chaos of our unfettered appetites.)
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To: fwdude

As an ordained elder I strongly support those churches standing up for morality and Biblical authority. The US and EU UMC leadership has long been under demonic possession.


3 posted on 03/02/2023 2:07:48 AM PST by Louis Foxwell (We are not fit to live free but must be enslaved to control the chaos of our unfettered appetites.)
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To: fwdude

My local UMC church is taking a vote next week. All “professing” members (full members) have the opportunity to show up and vote. I’ll be voting for disaffiliation from the UMC. If the 2/3rds threshold is reached we will then discuss affiliation with the Global Methodist Church.


4 posted on 03/02/2023 2:14:49 AM PST by Monterrosa-24 (To the barricades !!!)
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To: fwdude
"Among the findings is that disaffiliating churches are more likely to have a male pastor..",

I think I found a problem with the UMC cooperate churches, maybe they should try reading the bible, being it is supposed to be the source of their faith and cooperate structure. Sounds like confirmation bias and a touch of spiritual blindness.
5 posted on 03/02/2023 2:16:38 AM PST by Skwor
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To: Louis Foxwell
Absolutely. The UMC churches in Africa are the most conservative and are leaving almost en masse.

I think that statement about white/black disaffilation is a case of using statistics to lie.

6 posted on 03/02/2023 2:25:24 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: fwdude

Does the author know there are more white people in America than black?
This seems to be a problem now days.


7 posted on 03/02/2023 2:28:01 AM PST by GranTorino (Bloody Lips Save Ships.)
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To: fwdude
The LGBTQ faction in the UMC is clever (as usual). They accuse the disaffiliating churches of being hateful toward gays in general and that is not the case at all.

Those churches leaving are doing so because they do not believe that unrepentant gays and lesbians (like sinners of any kind) should be leading the church (like lesbian bishop Karen Oliveto).

8 posted on 03/02/2023 2:30:44 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: Louis Foxwell

I was a Certified Lay Speaker headed well down the track to Ordination. After our previous Pastor retired due to a health issue, the Lay Leader and I ran the church and led services for over a year. When a new liberal Pastor was appointed and I spoke out about her aligning with RMN and other left wing organizations within the UMC, she pulled my letter of support and the DS removed me.

They used my pending divorce as an excuse. Funny though, they didn’t seem to have an issue with the multitude of lesbians that became part of the church leadership after I left. There are some great congregations and individuals within the UMC, but the organization as a whole will wither and die.


9 posted on 03/02/2023 2:36:05 AM PST by TallahasseeConservative (Isaiah 40:31)
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To: fwdude
What a disingenuous person this author is.

The fact twisting drivel I read about in your post is enough is enough to stop me from reading further.

10 posted on 03/02/2023 2:37:24 AM PST by Kalam (The Qonjurer)
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To: RoosterRedux

“The provision allowing this form of exit — Paragraph 2553 of the Book of Discipline — expires at the end of 2023.”

Oh, so NOW they’re going to adhere tenaciously to the Book of Discipline on this point when they ignored its requirements regarding sexuality and other critical issues for decades? What abject hypocrites.

Churches should ignore this requirement, and shove the hundreds of other violations in the UMC’s faces when they object.


11 posted on 03/02/2023 2:42:50 AM PST by fwdude (Society has been fully polarized now, and you have to decide on which pole you want to be found.)
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The UMC gays and lesbians believe that homosexuality isn't a sin (ergo the Bible is just wrong). In fact, they believe the Bible is wrong in many important ways.

Did you realize that God destroyed Sodom because it was inhospitable to visitors?

12 posted on 03/02/2023 2:51:42 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: TallahasseeConservative

Why did all the lesbians join, after lib female pastor appointed? Is pastor lesbian?


13 posted on 03/02/2023 2:54:36 AM PST by NetAddicted (MAGA2024)
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To: NetAddicted

She was open about her liberalism, even went to the Church Council to fly the “gay pride” flag from the Church building. That was right before I got booted. I have no evidence to say she was a lesbian, but she came from a very liberal church in Manhattan.


14 posted on 03/02/2023 3:01:40 AM PST by TallahasseeConservative (Isaiah 40:31)
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To: TallahasseeConservative

In Washington, DC in the areas north of the White House are many small parks that have equestrian statues of Yankee generals. Those parks were well-maintained when I lived in DC at the dawn of the Reagan era . Today, those parks have trash, graffiti, winos, and unkempt shrubberies. The same neighborhoods have beautiful old churches but many fly the LGBTQP flag. It is sickening to see such decay.


15 posted on 03/02/2023 3:16:40 AM PST by Monterrosa-24 (To the barricades !!!)
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To: fwdude

So it’s sexist and racist. I wonder if there’s some spin here.


16 posted on 03/02/2023 3:16:47 AM PST by EandH Dad (sleeping giants wake up REALLY grumpy)
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To: fwdude

The writer is a fool. It is not about race and sex. It is about God’s Word: the Bible. The departing churches seek to adhere to the Word of God. The remaining churches do not. God woke, Go broke applies to the UMC.


17 posted on 03/02/2023 3:20:38 AM PST by Tudorfly (All things are possible within the will of God.)
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RoosterRedux wrote: Did you realize that God destroyed Sodom because it was inhospitable to visitors?
Uhmmm, you are kind of playing down the actual reason here. Genesis 19:5 through 19:9. They wanted to rape the angels, Lot even offered his daughters and the city refused, they wanted the angels period! That is a bit more than being unhospitable!
18 posted on 03/02/2023 3:21:11 AM PST by Skwor
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To: Monterrosa-24

It really is a shame. The Congregation that I was a member of had been in existence since the early 1800s. The attendance has gotten so poor that they no longer have a full time appointed Pastor, they’ve had to combine with another local congregation and hold service in the Sanctuary every other Sunday. The Pastor who I was referring to moved on to a wealthy liberal congregation in Connecticut.


19 posted on 03/02/2023 3:21:30 AM PST by TallahasseeConservative (Isaiah 40:31)
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To: Skwor

I realize it’s early and we all need another cup o’ joe. Read my entire comment again and I think you’ll get it.


20 posted on 03/02/2023 3:27:53 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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