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Southern Baptists boot Saddleback Church for having a female pastor
AP via NBC News ^ | Feb 21, 2023 | The Associate Press

Posted on 02/21/2023 9:33:38 PM PST by fwdude

The Southern Baptist Convention on Tuesday ousted its second-largest congregation ā€” Saddleback Church, the renowned California megachurch founded by pastor and best-selling author Rick Warren ā€” for having a woman pastor.

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To: Jolla

As previously stated, women tend to be more accommodating. I have yet to find in my personal experience a female pastor who strictly adheres to God’s word.

The proof is in the pudding.

Church attendance is down. Churches embracing or even advocating for sin. Churches should be fighting the devil, not partnering with him.

No, thank you.

We’ve gone astray because instead of expecting men to be strong, moral leaders, we have raised two generations of girly men with no male role model in the home.


61 posted on 02/22/2023 8:24:24 AM PST by TheWriterTX (Trust not in earthly princes....!)
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To: madison10

The small SBC I attend is about as conservative as it can get. But women, teach Sunday School classes, serve on the board of directors and various other committees. We have an assistant woman choir director. They will give their testimonies if led by the Lord, but the pastor and assistant pastor are men as are the deacons.

God hasn’t changed, his Word is constant. Man wants to add, take away, nuance what they think is God’s desires to meet the ever changing desires of a world that is devolving morally every day into a morass of evil, they want to be their own god.

I had a female friend who is a liberal who attended this church and when the supreme court arbitrarily declared gay marriage was going to be accepted by the government and society she assumed love won according to her. The pastor made it clear, man can and will change to accommodate their evil but God doesn’t change and we wouldn’t go along with SCOTUS or the social clubs pretending to be churches. She was aghast and angry. I said what did you think would happen, that the church would say, yeah God was wrong, man was right about the homosexual agenda? She told her husband they were leaving the church and both are quite miserable but they practice their own version of church where she is the god of the house that decides what is right and wrong.


62 posted on 02/22/2023 8:42:27 AM PST by sarge83
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To: ansel12

It is a silly argument that I am pointing out.

I think religious freedom (and freedom of association) should make the choice to have only male (or, for that matter, female) clergy okay.

But using the crutch of the sex of the apostles I have always thought to be a real stretch.


63 posted on 02/22/2023 9:17:23 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: jroehl

And who went to the tomb?

Luke 24
1 On the first day of the week, very early in the morning, the women took the spices they had prepared and went to the tomb. 2


64 posted on 02/22/2023 9:18:38 AM PST by Scrambler Bob
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To: lightman

Meanwhile, my old and once-loved Cambridge MA parish, University Lutheran, has a woman pastor who is “married” to another woman!!!!

She was once married to a man, and had children with him. But soon before she assumed the pastorate at UniLu, there was a divorce, and she legally “married” a woman!!!!

This lesbian is also the “Lutheran chaplain at Harvard”!!!! Harvard students and faculty who are Lutheran must flee to the Missouri Synod, or better yet to Holy Orthodoxy!! Lord have Mercy!!!!


65 posted on 02/22/2023 10:51:39 AM PST by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: DouglasKC

I’m curious to know what you read that led you to this conclusion?


66 posted on 02/22/2023 10:59:15 AM PST by jroehl (And how we burned in the camps later - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn - The Gulag Archipelago)
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To: grey_whiskers
Following the teachings of St. Paul who wrote half the New Tesetament.

Following the teachings of God, who breathed the New Testament.

2 Tim 3:16 - All Scripture is God breathed and is useful for teaching, for rebuking, for correcting, and for training in righteousness, . .

1 Tim 3: - A bishop then must be blameless, the husband . .

67 posted on 02/22/2023 11:10:05 AM PST by aimhigh (THIS is His commandment . . . . 1 John 3:23)
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To: jroehl
Iā€™m curious to know what you read that led you to this conclusion?

Because I played quite a bit with chatgpt and it looks like a chatgpt answer....

68 posted on 02/22/2023 11:16:03 AM PST by DouglasKC
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To: 9YearLurker

Christians rely on God’s word to instruct them and male and female are not about Mexico and Japan.

It seems like you just want to troll the thread.


69 posted on 02/22/2023 11:36:41 AM PST by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: ansel12

I’m calling it a stretch to claim that because Christ’s apostles were male that means God was instructing us that only men should be priests or pastors.

That’s not mocking God’s word. That’s mocking those who get overly creative to make God’s word what they want it to be.


70 posted on 02/22/2023 11:42:10 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

How does your Christian church interpret the biblical evidence on female preachers?


71 posted on 02/22/2023 11:49:08 AM PST by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: ansel12

Not by reading something into the Bible that isn’t there. Though again, I support the right for churches and other groups to interpret and organize as they’d like.


72 posted on 02/22/2023 12:39:09 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: DouglasKC

Well, I am impressed. Your observation is correct. You may be an expert at a new occupation.


73 posted on 02/22/2023 12:42:33 PM PST by jroehl (And how we burned in the camps later - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn - The Gulag Archipelago)
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To: 9YearLurker

So a trolling you are, I was just checking.


74 posted on 02/22/2023 12:44:14 PM PST by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: ansel12

By your definition pretty much all of FR is trolling.

This isn’t a topic where only one point of view can or should be shared and discussion is the idea.


75 posted on 02/22/2023 12:53:16 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: MayflowerMadam

Were the men even men if they allowed the women to take over?


76 posted on 02/22/2023 12:56:56 PM PST by TightyRighty
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To: 9YearLurker

Look at your posts, you haven’t really engaged in the discussion, you were merely trolling the thread.


77 posted on 02/22/2023 1:09:22 PM PST by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: fwdude

Good job! Unless they want to go on the same slippery slide that tanked the UMC.


78 posted on 02/22/2023 1:15:29 PM PST by Albion Wilde ("There is no good government at all & none possible."--Mark Twain)
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To: TightyRighty

Good point. Pithy.


79 posted on 02/22/2023 1:18:55 PM PST by MayflowerMadam (Stupid is supposed to hurt.)
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To: Bulwyf
Sexual revolution ruined women.

And men as well. Find one who expects to remain pure, or keep his fiancee a virgin, until marriage. Most won't even wait until the second date to start the pressure to have sex. Many won't even actually "date" -- i.e. take someone out, say to a dinner or movie, and get to know her first.

80 posted on 02/22/2023 1:19:47 PM PST by Albion Wilde ("There is no good government at all & none possible."--Mark Twain)
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