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Boy who shot teacher allegedly tried to choke another
Associated Press via Yahoo ^ | February 6, 2023 | DENISE LAVOIE and BEN FINLEY

Posted on 02/06/2023 2:29:57 PM PST by grundle

RICHMOND, Va. (AP) — A 6-year-old Virginia boy who shot and wounded his first-grade teacher constantly cursed at staff and teachers, chased students around and tried to whip them with his belt and once choked another teacher “until she couldn't breathe,” according to a legal notice filed by an attorney for the wounded teacher.

The incidents were described in a notice sent to the Newport News school district by Diane Toscano, an attorney for teacher Abby Zwerner, informing the district that Zwerner intends to sue. The notice of claim, which was obtained by The Associated Press through a public records request, outlines prior behavioral issues the boy had at Richneck Elementary School and troubling interactions he had with teachers and students.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Miscellaneous; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: abbyzwerner; arth; badseed; richneck; richneckelementary
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To: grundle

From everything I’ve read, this little boy was an uncontrolable terror. That means that he almost certainly had an I.E.P. (Individualized Educational Program) which effectively tied the hands of administrators/teachers/staff to discipline him. The school is required by law to educate him in the ‘least-restrictive’ environment possible. Meaning he can’t be stuck in the special ed class all day.

At my school we had such a child. Two staff members were specially trained in how to restrain him—no one else dare touch him. Kid wasn’t evil, but every now and then he’d lose his temper, climb on his desk and start throwing things at the teacher and other students. When this happened a call would go out to one who could restrain him. Since his behavior was his ‘handicap’ he couldn’t be punished without a semi-legal hearing.

If it gets to the point that the school can no longer control such a kid, the school and district will be on the hook for paying for him to be in a place that can control him. Again, because of his ‘handicap’ this extends to 12 months a year until he turns 21—not 18. Money for his ‘special care’ takes precedence over all other educational spending. This is why administrators are reluctant to say he’s out of control.


21 posted on 02/06/2023 2:55:43 PM PST by hanamizu
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To: grundle

Who are these wimpy teachers

Any adult should have no problem dealing with a 6 year old that is trying to choke them.

I have a 7 year old grandson (just turned in December) he is a very large boy.

His grandma who has a bad knee has no trouble dealing with tantrums.

If a 6 year old start swinging a belt at me I take it away from him.

Okay the gun thing is a bit different thing.


22 posted on 02/06/2023 2:56:01 PM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: grundle

Gee. How would a kid ever come to be that psychotic to begin with?


23 posted on 02/06/2023 2:56:38 PM PST by OKSooner (War is a racket. COVID-19 is a racket.)
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To: DesertRhino

This kid is 6 years old, how is he choking any adult? How is he “barricading classroom doors” as was a reported previously? How is any child that young so out of control? What is wrong with him? It seems he will need to be institutionalized for life.


24 posted on 02/06/2023 2:58:48 PM PST by jocon307 (Democrats delenda est.)
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To: dfwgator

I’ll let you try to guess the demographics of the victim versus the two perps

They were younger than 18 so our idiotic system will have them out on the street in no time


25 posted on 02/06/2023 2:59:09 PM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: grundle

And some question why the Levitical code commends the stoning of disobedient children.


26 posted on 02/06/2023 2:59:36 PM PST by lightman (I am a binary Trinitarian. Deal with it!)
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To: euram

I think you’re right about that. The media would be breathlessly reporting on the horrible act of racism, and how the parents were said to be white supremacists by an annonymous source. The media’s silence and lack of curiosity tells the tale. I would be shocked to find out this was done by a white boy. This also explains how the little bastard got away with choking a teacher and chasing people with his belt. God forbid anyone especially white would stomp his ass.


27 posted on 02/06/2023 2:59:48 PM PST by Clarancebeaks
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To: SaveFerris
They were younger than 18 so our idiotic system will have them out on the street in no time

If you're under 18 you won't be doing any time...hey hey hey....come out and play!

28 posted on 02/06/2023 3:00:10 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: TheDon

His pic was posted about 10 days back

Hint: this time it was not a Chinese balloon 🎈


29 posted on 02/06/2023 3:00:22 PM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: grundle

Bkmrk


30 posted on 02/06/2023 3:01:56 PM PST by rockabyebaby (THE BEST IS YET TO COME - (PRESIDENT DONALD J. TRUMP))
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To: dfwgator

Too bad about Cyrus

Hey Warriors, sorry we tried to kill you all night long.

Here’s a Joe Walsh song.

Hope that helps.


31 posted on 02/06/2023 3:01:56 PM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: hanamizu

Good points all and a reminder that, like many other of our problems, this one originates in legislative and executive branches of government.


32 posted on 02/06/2023 3:02:04 PM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: grundle

Looking like that teacher’s lawyers will be able to retire rich on the proceeds from the lawsuits.


33 posted on 02/06/2023 3:02:29 PM PST by Chad C. Mulligan (eleutheromaniac)
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To: jocon307
How is any child that young so out of control?

This was a child that was so out of control, a parent was required to be present with him in class at all times.

The week he shot his teacher was the first time he didn't have a parent in class with him. I guess they relaxed this requirement just for a moment and look what happened.

34 posted on 02/06/2023 3:03:07 PM PST by Drew68 (Ron DeSantis for President 2024)
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To: grundle

Give him a few boosters and the problem will go away.


35 posted on 02/06/2023 3:08:55 PM PST by Revolutionary ("Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition!")
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To: Pontiac

From what I understand, teachers and school personnel are not allowed to physically restrain or discipline a child.

Can anyone confirm that the teachers and school Personnel are not allowed to physically discipline a child?

If true that would explain why these teachers are afraid and or are unable to administer proper discioline.


36 posted on 02/06/2023 3:09:01 PM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: grundle

There is an innocent, productive member of society walking around out there right now... no, make that two innocent, productive members... who this damned little monster will murder before he’s done. Thanks democrats.


37 posted on 02/06/2023 3:09:24 PM PST by LibWhacker
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Putting a restriction on school staff that they may not restrain a student would be foolish beyond fool hardy

Not restraining a child that is assaulting another student or a staff member is a failure to protect someone in your charge. That would be negligence.

You can not force someone by law or rules to not protect their own life or health.

I can only imagine trying to defend such a rule in court. It would not be pretty. The school had better settle quickly if they are defending such a position.


38 posted on 02/06/2023 3:22:36 PM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: TheDon

39 posted on 02/06/2023 3:27:41 PM PST by LibWhacker
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To: TheDon
The child should be institutionalized for life

He will be … on and off. Jordon Peterson has quite a bit to say on this topic. According to Peterson, there is a small percentage of the population that is extraordinarily aggressive. When they are between the ages of two to five they essentially don’t learn to play with their peers. They become outcasts since their peers don’t want anything to do with them. By the time they are in school, they completely lack the skills to cope with others and are unable to learn. That’s the source of many career criminals.

There’s not much you can do to correct their behavior. Other children won’t deal with them in a school setting. On the other hand, if they are institutionalized, their behavior is reinforced by other degenerates.

I believe this is a result of very poor parenting. The parents need to pay a price, and made an example of what happens when parents do not control their kids.

40 posted on 02/06/2023 3:33:01 PM PST by ConservativeInPA (Stupidly is a moral problem, not an intellectual problem. )
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