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A Panicked Empire Tries To Make Russia "An Offer It Can't Refuse"
The Cradle ^ | 1FEB2023 | Pepe Escobar

Posted on 02/05/2023 6:54:30 PM PST by Tom Tetroxide

Realizing NATO’s war with Russia will likely end unfavorably, the US is test-driving an exit offer. But why should Moscow take indirect proposals seriously, especially on the eve of its new military advance and while it is in the winning seat?

Those behind the Throne are never more dangerous than when they have their backs against the wall.

Their power is slipping away, fast: Militarily, via NATO’s progressive humiliation in Ukraine; Financially, sooner rather than later, most of the Global South will want nothing to do with the currency of a bankrupt rogue giant; Politically, the global majority is taking decisive steps to stop obeying a rapacious, discredited, de facto minority.

So now those behind the Throne are plotting to at least try to stall the incoming disaster on the military front.

As confirmed by a high-level US establishment source, a new directive on NATO vs. Russia in Ukraine was relayed to US Secretary of State Antony Blinken. Blinken, in terms of actual power, is nothing but a messenger boy for the Straussian neocons and neoliberals who actually run US foreign policy.

(Excerpt) Read more at thecradle.co ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: bidenforeignpolicy; bloggers; fakenews; letsgobrandon; letsgozzelenskyy; natosheepdipwarrior; pepeescobar; russia; ukraine; war; zottherussiantrolls
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1 posted on 02/05/2023 6:54:30 PM PST by Tom Tetroxide
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Western Volunteer in Bakhmut Admits Ukraine is Losing + is the Western Tank Card a Bluff?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMcpFJ9cKFM&ab_channel=TheNewAtlas


2 posted on 02/05/2023 6:55:44 PM PST by Tom Tetroxide
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ludicrous.


3 posted on 02/05/2023 6:58:30 PM PST by devere
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To: Tom Tetroxide

😁


4 posted on 02/05/2023 6:58:40 PM PST by rottweiller_inc (inter canem et lupum)
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To: Tom Tetroxide

Can’t be.

Z-Man is a military genius.

He is slaughtering Russians by the millions.

It’s only a matter of a few more hundred billion US dollars and victory will be secured!


5 posted on 02/05/2023 6:59:28 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ β–ˆ β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ β–ˆβ–ˆ β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ. FJB.)
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To: Tom Tetroxide

Love this!!! A great site. Thanks for posting.

I think we might back off but Jens and some of his Baltic brat friends really want WW3.

Of course, on our dime.


6 posted on 02/05/2023 7:03:35 PM PST by MarMema (Orange Putin Bad)
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To: Tom Tetroxide

“The Cradle”?


7 posted on 02/05/2023 7:03:49 PM PST by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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To: Tom Tetroxide

Ukraine just may be out of time to get new tanks there with trained crews, ammunition, and logistics at this point.

Unless they are just going to bring them in with American and German crews.


8 posted on 02/05/2023 7:04:31 PM PST by The Free Engineer
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To: Tom Tetroxide

Since the whole world thought that Ukraine would be defeated within days or a couple of weeks, everything since then has been gravy.

Why would the West be totally shaken and shocked if Ukraine loses after a year or two of bleeding out the Russian war machine?

I would imagine that NATO will be very prepared if Ukraine loses since they were presumably already prepared for it a year ago.


9 posted on 02/05/2023 7:05:02 PM PST by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“Confiscate the $300 billion that the Russian state holds in overseas accounts in the United States and EU and use seized monies to fund reconstruction.”

I am pretty sure Russia realizes that is gone.

We sanction to seize gold, I sometimes think.

I also saw that the Rand think tank is advising we back off!


10 posted on 02/05/2023 7:10:54 PM PST by MarMema (Orange Putin Bad)
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To: Tom Tetroxide

“The Cradle” website is a well-known anti-American propaganda outlet.
Makes Americans yawn.


11 posted on 02/05/2023 7:12:38 PM PST by USA-FRANCE
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To: ansel12

You’re finally admitting the whole thing was a proxy war conducted by the USA against Russia.

Progress!


12 posted on 02/05/2023 7:14:51 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ β–ˆ β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ β–ˆβ–ˆ β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ. FJB.)
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To: USA-FRANCE

Even if you go by the line the proputin posters make here nato is simply throwing ukranian bodies at Russia so they idea that it is ‘losing’ in anyway is silly. Its just the degree in which it is hurting Russia.


13 posted on 02/05/2023 7:15:10 PM PST by jarwulf
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We'll just erase the war in Ukraine from the history books.


14 posted on 02/05/2023 7:15:27 PM PST by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: Tom Tetroxide

This was an uphill battle for Ukraine from the beginning whose “victory” was made all the more improbable by the lack of world resolve to censure and isolate Putin.


15 posted on 02/05/2023 7:16:13 PM PST by O6ret
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I don’t know who’s winning. Am I supposed to believe the liars from US/NATO or the liars from Russia?


16 posted on 02/05/2023 7:17:06 PM PST by grumpygresh (Civil disobedience by non-compliance; jury and state nullification. )
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To: E. Pluribus Unum; Tom Tetroxide

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/new-rand-study-breaks-dc-consensus-warns-us-against-protracted-conflict-ukraine

RAND Study Breaks From US Hawks, Warns Against “Protracted Conflict” In Ukraine

The authors argue that, in addition to minimizing the risks of major escalation, U.S. interests would be best served by avoiding a protracted conflict. The costs and risks of a long war in Ukraine are significant and outweigh the possible benefits of such a trajectory for the United States. Although Washington cannot by itself determine the war’s duration, it can take steps that make an eventual negotiated end to the conflict more likely.

Beyond the potential for Russian gains and the economic consequences for Ukraine, Europe, and the world, a long war would also have on sequences for U.S. foreign policy. The U.S. ability to focus on its other global priorities β€”particularly, competition with Chinaβ€” will remain constrained as long as the war is absorbing senior policymakers’ time and U.S. military resources.

And although Russia will be more dependent on China regardless of when the war ends, Washington does have a long-term interest in ensuring that Moscow does not become completely subordinated to Beijing. A longer war that increases Russia’s dependence could provide China advantages in its competition with the United States.

More at the link.
Translation....time to change to China.


17 posted on 02/05/2023 7:17:27 PM PST by MarMema (Orange Putin Bad)
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To: USA-FRANCE

Says the anti-American frenchie.


18 posted on 02/05/2023 7:18:34 PM PST by MarMema (Orange Putin Bad)
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To: grumpygresh
I don’t know who’s winning. Am I supposed to believe the liars from US/NATO or the liars from Russia?

Maybe both sides are losing and China's winning.

19 posted on 02/05/2023 7:20:04 PM PST by seowulf (Civilization begins with order, grows with liberty, and dies with chaos...Will Durant)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Don’t make up nonsense, and don’t make up fake claims for other people.

Russia invaded Ukraine, Ukraine proved to be tough and smart and started tearing into the Russians, and NATO has agreed to help them, as an American I like anything that helps America and our national security.


20 posted on 02/05/2023 7:20:45 PM PST by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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