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Gun Control Laws Backfiring in California
RealClearPolitics ^ | 2/3/23 | John R. Lott, Jr.

Posted on 02/04/2023 5:40:17 AM PST by CFW

After the three public shootings over the last two weekends in California, Democrats are again clamoring for even more gun control laws. To California Gov. Gavin Newsom, the solution is to ban more places where people can carry permitted concealed handguns. Unfortunately, the proposal has nothing to do with stopping these attacks, and more gun-free zones only encourage these attacks. Other heavily Democratic states such as New York, New Jersey, and Maryland are making similar pushes.

Concealed handgun permit holders didn’t commit those or other mass public shootings. Permit holders are also extremely law-abiding, being convicted of firearms-related violations at 1/12th the rate of police officers.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; US: California
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; adamschiff; armedcitizen; banglist; california; control; gavinnewsom; gun; nancypelosi; rkba
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"In Los Angeles Country, where two of the attacks occurred, there is only one permit for every 5,660 adults. In San Mateo County, where the other attack occurred, there is one permit per every 24,630 adults. By comparison, there is one permit holder for every nine people in the 43 right-to-carry states."
1 posted on 02/04/2023 5:40:17 AM PST by CFW
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2 posted on 02/04/2023 5:53:41 AM PST by caww (O death, when you seized my Lord, you lost your grip on me......Augustine)
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A real back fire against gun control would be voting Democrats out of office. Until then, the shootings just show how laws are ineffective.


3 posted on 02/04/2023 5:58:06 AM PST by DeplorablePaul (protesters)
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I live in one of the bluest of blue states. The crime is so bad, the libs are buying guns and are applying for permits at a record pace. Even they are frightened by what their leaders of choice are doing to them.

We have just over 7 million residents and we are quickly approaching 1 million active CCW’s. That is a fact not lost on the dimocRAT leaders. Consequently those same insane elected officials are trying their hardest to instill more gun control laws that even their constituencies don’t want.

It must really be a mind blowing experience being a dimocRAT. Sucks being them.


4 posted on 02/04/2023 5:58:45 AM PST by bigfootbob (Arm Up and Live Free!)
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From the article: “Democrats are again clamoring for even more gun control laws. To California Gov. Gavin Newsom, the solution is to ban more places where people can carry permitted concealed handguns.”

People with concealed permits are not the problem. The mere fact that they have to pass a background check proves they are not criminals.

Criminals with illegal weapons are the ones committing crimes along with nutcases, many of which were on the cops radar before murdering anyone.

They want to pass more feel good laws that does nothing other than restrict the 2A and leaves the criminals (aka voters) alone. It amazes me how people can buy into such an illogical argument.


5 posted on 02/04/2023 5:59:27 AM PST by redfreedom (You can vote your way into socialism, but you may have to shoot your way out.)
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Which is why very few people obey the illegal “laws” in Californication. Dep bring on which city you visit there, at least one in twenty carrier. Likely one in ten in a number of places. Veey few ever get “caught” but the mere existence of such anti-American “laws” leaves millions of citizens vulnerable to state harassment, threat, and occasionally even imprisonment — for doing nothing more or less than exercising their constitutionally- recognized rights.

Criminalizing the masses is a major objective of any tyranny. It is a primary control mechanism in subjecting the citizens and turning a nation into a authoritarian dictatorship. And it works too. Nazi Germany! Soviet Union. Communist china. North Korea.

“ Show me the man and I’ll show you the crime Published 2:49 pm Wednesday, May 9, 2018 By Michael Henry

Lavrentiy Beria, the most ruthless and longest-serving secret police chief in Joseph Stalin’s reign of terror in Russia and Eastern Europe, bragged that he could prove criminal conduct on anyone, even the innocent. “Show me the man and I’ll show you the crime” was Beria’s infamous boast. He served as deputy premier from 1941 until Stalin’s death in 1953, supervising the expansion of the gulags and other secret detention facilities for political prisoners. He became part of a post-Stalin, short-lived ruling troika until he was executed for treason after Nikita Khrushchev’s coup d’etat in 1953.

(Excerpt credit: The Oxford Eagle)


6 posted on 02/04/2023 7:22:11 AM PST by faithhopecharity (“Politicians are not born. They're excreted.” Marcus Tillius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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Indeed, people legally carrying guns stopped at least 31 mass public shootings since 2020. And when Americans are allowed to legally carry concealed handguns, they stop about half the active shooting attacks in the US.

Lefty idiots like Newsom aren't fazed by facts and/or hard data. None of that matters, only that "guns are bad and need to be banned."

What does he care?

You can be sure Newsom and HIS family are protected 24/7 by armed guards. He wants to make sure you can't do same.

7 posted on 02/04/2023 7:25:24 AM PST by Bon of Babble (Rigged Elections have Consequences)
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They should just create a law making murder a crime.


8 posted on 02/04/2023 7:36:33 AM PST by patriot torch
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Banning concealed carry gives politicians the illusion of doing something.


9 posted on 02/04/2023 7:40:55 AM PST by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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Has anyone noticed that the more gun control laws the dumbasses on Capistol Hill pass, the more the numbers of mass shooting have increased. Mass shootings and murders have skyrocketed since Demented Jo Jo and his commie RATS and BLM fascist pals have taken over everything.


10 posted on 02/04/2023 7:42:10 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Remember what FJB Brandon said, "...more than half of the women in my administration are women.")
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[[It amazes me how people can buy into such an illogical argument]]

Devotees of the chief of liars, Satan, would rather beleive lies than the truth and cold hard facts.


11 posted on 02/04/2023 7:46:23 AM PST by Bob434
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After several shootings in churches in Texas, they changed the law to allow carry in churches. Target rich environments. The left hates Christians, and the kids are programmed early on.
Of course the mass shootings that result give more ammo to the left to ban guns. Very circular.


12 posted on 02/04/2023 7:51:43 AM PST by TStro (Better to die on your feet than live on your knees)
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1 in 9... That surprises me...


13 posted on 02/04/2023 7:55:24 AM PST by sit-rep ( )
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And of course now the move is on for constitutional carry. You don’t know who is carrying and perps are afraid to start anything. I don’t like open carry because you risk somebody taking your gun by surprise, although there have been times when I have open carried.


14 posted on 02/04/2023 7:58:55 AM PST by TStro (Better to die on your feet than live on your knees)
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They should just create a law making murder a crime.
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If you really think about it that makes a lot of sense compared to these stupid laws that restrict a persons ability to defend themselves and potentially others from harm.


15 posted on 02/04/2023 8:05:40 AM PST by V V Camp Enari 67-68 ( This clears up a lot of misconceptions.)
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They should just create a law making murder a crime.
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If you really think about it that makes a lot of sense compared to these stupid laws that restrict a persons ability to defend themselves and potentially others from harm.


16 posted on 02/04/2023 8:06:59 AM PST by V V Camp Enari 67-68 ( This clears up a lot of misconceptions.)
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By comparison, there is one permit holder for every nine people in the 43 right-to-carry states.


In 25 states, no permit is needed. No telling how many are armed.


17 posted on 02/04/2023 8:30:26 AM PST by hanamizu
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To: CFW; mylife; Joe Brower; MaxMax; Randy Larsen; waterhill; Envisioning; AZ .44 MAG; umgud; ...

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18 posted on 02/04/2023 8:36:43 AM PST by PROCON (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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98% OF MASS-SHOOTINGS OCCUR IN GUN-FREE ZONES

REPEAL JOE BIDEN'S GUN-FREE SCHOOL ZONE ACT OF 1990


FACT: Guns prevent an estimated 2.5 million crimes a year or 6,849 every day. 98+% of the time the gun is not fired and no blood (including the criminal’s) is shed.

SOURCE: http://www.gunfacts.info/pdfs/gun-facts/7.1/Gun-Facts-7.1-screen.pdf, pages 21, 83.

FACT: 98% of mass-shootings occur in gun-free zones

SOURCE: https://www.dailywire.com/news/what-percentage-mass-shootings-happen-gun-free-amanda-prestigiacomo


19 posted on 02/04/2023 9:10:07 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is ████ █ ██████ ███████ ███ ██████ ██ ████████. FJB.)
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I have a question:
Has there ever been a mass shooting by a member of the NRA or a Concealed Carry person?
Or can you name a single time a NRA member or a Concealed Carry person has committed a mass shooting?

Good Hunting... from Varmint Al

20 posted on 02/04/2023 9:30:56 AM PST by Varmint Al
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