Posted on 12/29/2022 8:34:29 AM PST by SoConPubbie
If you listen to the liberal media, you would probably think that Trump is out, and down for the count.
Two top Republican pollsters are saying this is flatly untrue.
This isn’t a knock at Ron DeSantis or any other Republican, just a glimpse of where things are right now.
The Washington Examiner reports:
Don’t be fooled, Trump ‘strong as ever,’ say top pollsters
You’ve seen the polls, in Secrets and elsewhere, touting the emergence of Gov. Ron DeSantis (R-FL) and others challenging former President Donald Trump, the only Republican who has announced a bid for the 2024 GOP primary so far.
They come at a time when the former president is under fire in many corners but still standing and punching back.
Now two of the nation’s leading Republican pollsters who have strong ties to Trump are explaining why he remains “as strong as ever” to take the nomination and beat President Joe Biden.
John and Jim McLaughlin, who run McLaughlin & Associates, recently released their poll that shows the former president ahead of DeSantis 48%-23%, just as popular as he was on Election Day last month, and leading Biden 48%-45%.
Here at Secrets, we write a lot about polls and have highlighted many about the DeSantis surge, especially after his blockbuster reelection last month. While it’s still over a year before the first caucus or primary, they all give a suggestion for how the candidates are doing among voters but shouldn’t be taken as the last word.
What’s different about the McLaughlin poll, John McLaughlin told us, is that it is tougher with the sample it uses. It tries to whittle down its sample to those most likely to vote instead of a bigger vat that may include some who’ve never voted.
McLaughlin tries to stay away from anti-Trump bias in many media polls. And finally, it replicates the Democrat-to-Republican percentage of more recent elections.
The 2024 election is a long way off and things could change at any time.
We are all just going to have to wait and see.
Perfect reply, mon ami.
Much can happen in a bit over a year, and I respect everyone's opinion here on FR. I have an early favorite, but it's not a bromance. I work to maintain some scientific detachment.
My worry is that internecine squabbles could drive a wedge where a wedge would be all it takes to hand the election to the ever-more-left-progressive Dems.
You don't think the same GA voters who re-elected Kemp won't vote for DeSantis?
And in AZ, every Republican who wasn't endorsed by Trump won.
“Well, I stopped voting anyway...”
As did I. I sat out the last election...first time in almost half a century. Until the cheating is stopped, “elections” no longer matter.
“I WILL NEVER vote for an establishment Republican for President again.”
Considering that we’re now facing WW3 due to a Democrat being in office, I respectfully object to the idea of handing the keys to this bunch of Democrats.
“The problem was the big donors did not agree and all the other candidates wanted the big donor money and needed the big donor money to stay in politics.”
I agree that was a huge factor, but I’ll always wonder how a MAGA type would do without institutional funding - someone who asks for money from the Republican base, as there are MANY, MANY, of us do have a good deal of money that we’re intending to hand down to kids...which will be of little use, in a destroyed country.
I tend to think in terms of Tea Party as opposed to MAGA. In 2010 there were a lot of candidates who claimed to be tea party members but were not once they got in office. I don’t know if they were always liars or became corrupted by the system. It would also be interesting to know if they were corrupted by money or by sex.
I never thought Trump would follow through, but he did a magnificent job. I never expected so much opposition to him on the GOP side, however. Makes me wonder if anyone else will ever have the courage to take on the establishment.
“In my circle of GOP fam, friends, and acquaintances, (over a dozen so far and many more to privately poll) previous Trump voters all, no one, not one, wants Trump to even stay in the race. “I just want him to go away” is the most common comment.”
Same here. Several have said they will NOT vote for him in the general even if he wins the nomination. I will but they will not. I see no chance he can carry Arizona.
People on FR are a bit like those in NYC - “But everyone I know votes like me!” We’re an echo chamber. But Arizona, for example, is 1/3 Democrat, 1/3 Republican and 1/3 Independent. The last 1/3 is what determines who wins or loses. The Trump Slate did NOT carry independents in 2022.
Very cool, Candor7
Pence sad
Well said, Dick Bachert!
It’s the FBI wing of the Bush,McCain,Romney Banana Republican party out in force..
The R party has sucked at providing an America First politician.
That’s why a former Democrat/non politician Billionaire had to run in the first place..
And exposed those R’s as scum.
Pocono, Thank you. Feel free to share.
DB
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Very well said, Light Brigade! And love your user name and tagline.
More Tenneyson from my March 2016 FR vanity: Ulysses Trump Joins Millions of Heroic Hearts to Take Back America
I know that phenomenon, my good FRiend.
My DW, (long time GOPer and 2-time Trump voter) has told me more than once that she will not vote for him, again, ever.
It's really a matter of lack of tact and diplomacy, coupled with a misunderstanding of human nature. When someone insults another, publicly, that other human just might find ways to save face. And, this can include getting even, or settling a score.
Sadly, DJT has never understood this.
“ You don’t think the same GA voters who re-elected Kemp won’t vote for DeSantis?”
Nope. DeSantis is a strong conservative and smart. The GOP establishment won’t support him any more than Trump. In fact they will undermine him.
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