SAVING THE WORLD WITH ELECTRIC VEHICLES

Poerline ^ | December 6,2022 | BY JOHN HINDERAKER

[Tell It Right]

"But, more important, to replace the present ICE fleet would require 100+ more lithium strip mines." and "ok mr holy tell us about lithium mining absolutely raping the environment."

Evidently the two of you MISSED MY FIRST TWO SENTENCES in my post: "EV's aren't for everyone. And I hate the Dims trying to force them on people."

I like EV's from a free market perspective, for the people who think it's good for them and willing to pay for them. I also join my fellow FReepers in being against the control-freak Dims trying to force EV's or anything else onto us. I just believe, unlike many folks here evidently, that we should make our arguments with actual information and not made up numbers and such like the left does. The left follows the prince of lies and make their arguments as such. Our arguments should be based on facts.

Look at all the times I've posted about how my wife and I use our EV combined with solar at our home to make us less dependent on things the gubment regulates (like they very much do with energy). Not once have I ever said it's best for the environment or stops the cow fart warmageddon or any of that hogwash. I'm just a fellow small-government minded FReeper swapping ideas on how to put a hedge betweenmretirement savings and the Dims who use inflation to try to eat away our wealth (particularly with energy cost inflation). I've liked some ideas other FReepers posted enough to implement some of them. Whether or not other FReepers like some of my ideas is up to them.

But you two associating me with the warmageddonist cult is almost as insulting as calling me an Auburn fan. LOL

[Tell It Right]

see post # 61

[lewislynn]

Power station Don’t burn gasoline, they burn NG. Cars don’t burn NG, they burn gasoline.

Ignorance is bliss.

[lewislynn]

This irks me the most - you and I are subsidizing all those Teslas on the road.

Actually we're subsidizing the richest man in the world and all of his pet projects including studying brain implants and IMHO, worst of all, Twitter.

[867V309]

More people day everyday from falling in the tub than ever died from three mile island.

there was significant radiation release from the plant so we don't really know the death toll from radiation related cancers.      what we DO know is that the government and industry would coverup everything they could.       you decide.

[DoodleBob]

This is very helpful. Thank you.

Let's have some fun with math.

I read elsewhere that, for each kWh generated in the U.S., an average of 0.822 pounds of CO2 is released at the power plant. Coal releases 2.3 pounds, petroleum releases 2.1 pounds, and natural gas releases 0.9 pounds.

The average passenger car emits 0.77 pounds of CO2 per mile driven.

If you EV gets 3 miles of driving capacity per kWh, then power plants have to produce 133.3 kWh of electrocity for you to obtain a "full charge" of 400 miles.

133.3 kWh*0.822 means a full EV charge produces 109.6 pounds of CO, on average, or 306 pounds from coal, 280 pounds from petroleum, and 120 pounds from natural gas.

Your ICE would produce 0.77*400=308 pounds of carbon.

Therefore, EVs are "carbon neutral" vs ICE if it's a coal-fired power plant, but an EV is "carbon positive" for other forms of utility power generation.

I think...

[TexasGator]

“there was significant radiation release from the plant so we don’t really know the death toll from radiation related cancers. “

Radiation releases were examined with results indicating no additional cancers to surrounding population.

Stop spreading fake environmentalists’ propaganda.

[suijuris]

But you two associating me with the warmageddonist cult is almost as insulting as calling me an Auburn fan. LOL

Whether or not you believe in the glo bull warming scam is not the point. Your focusing on saving a buck does in fact, do more harm to the environment than driving an ICE and plays into the hands of the WEF et al who plan bringing the population down to 500 million. EVs are a key component of the green plan. I would think a thinking conservative would choose not to participate on principle.

[867V309]

Look at all the times I've posted about how my wife and I use our EV combined with solar

what you don't grasp is the bill of goods sold as solar/ev and wind if I might add

I realize how invested you are in this scam and that trying to enlighten you is hopeless

but eliciting your responses may help others see how shortsighted the chinee solar panel, environment-killing battery, eternally waiting to charge your vehicle, dependence on the grid for transportation, ugly bird-slaughtering windmills and beholden to socialist government the green scam truly is.

[867V309]

Stop spreading fake environmentalists’ propaganda.

so you blindly believe what the government and its pukes say

no wonder you're an ev spammer

[TexasGator]

so you blindly believe what the wacko environmental sites and its pukes say

no wonder you’re an EV spammer

[Pelham]

“Tesla’s eligibility for the previous tax credits ended in Jan. 2020 when it hit the 200,000 limit on vehicles sold per automaker.”

[Pelham]

https://www.redwoodmaterials.com/about/

[Tell It Right]

see post # 61

[867V309]

the deep state is desperately pushing your green dystopia

can I assume you agree with it?

[TexasGator]

“but eliciting your responses may help others see how shortsighted the chinee solar panel, environment-killing battery, eternally waiting to charge your vehicle, dependence on the grid for transportation, ugly bird-slaughtering windmills and beholden to socialist government the green scam truly is.”

ROTFLMAO!

[TexasGator]

the wacko environmental sites and its pukes are desperately pushing your green dystopia.

can I assume you agree with it?

[867V309]

ROTFLMAO!

in other words, "I am completely without any defense to these truths"

[867V309]

can I assume you agree with it?

nice try

ev is green dystopia

[suijuris]

EV's are not carbon neutral. Nothing is completely carbon neutral. The energy inputs required to manufacture an EV are 7 to 8 times greater than the energy inputs to manufacture an ICE. Over the life of the vehicle EVs have a larger carbon footprint than ICEs. When you consider the energy loss by transmissions of electricity through the grid the comparision is even worse. Except for nuclear, petroleum is still the most efficient source of energy.

RegFurther, I would surmize the recent eruptions have pretty much eliminated the last 30 years of human efforts to reduce CO2.