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Detransitioner: ‘I’m suing the doctors who removed my healthy breasts’
New York Post ^ | December 3, 2022 | Rikki Schlott

Posted on 12/05/2022 8:53:17 AM PST by karpov

“Sometimes in the shower, I realize they’re gone. I just have these scars.”

Camille Kiefel, 32, had her healthy breasts removed in 2020 to align with her nonbinary gender identity. She says her doctors approved the surgery after two Zoom meetings, breezing past a whole host of mental health issues.

Now that Camille is in a better place mentally, she realizes her surgery was a mistake. So, two and a half years later, she’s suing her social worker, therapist, and the gender clinics they work for — Brave Space Oregon and Quest Center for Integrative Health — seeking up to $850,000 in damages.

As a child, Camille never gave her gender identity a thought. But when her best friend was raped by a relative in sixth grade, she said she became acutely aware of her femininity. Around that time her father also imparted well-meaning advice that backfired.

“My dad told me about how men talked about girls, because he wanted to protect me and to get me to dress more conservatively,” she told The Post. “But it made my anxiety worse. All that really screwed me up. I remember I was even afraid to be alone.”

From that point on, she began dressing more androgynously. “I didn’t want to highlight my curves. I had a lot of discomfort around my breasts and hips.”

But the idea that she might not actually be a woman didn’t occur to Camille until she enrolled at Portland State University, where she minored in gender studies and was introduced to alternative views about sex and gender.

By the time she reached her mid-20s, she embraced a nonbinary label and used she/they pronouns. All the while, she was struggling with a slew of mental-health issues, including anxiety disorder, social anxiety, PTSD, major depressive disorder and ADHD.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: genitalmutilation; malpractice; topsurgery; transgender
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To: SamAdams76

Rimshot! :)


41 posted on 12/05/2022 9:22:41 AM PST by JennysCool ("It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled." - Mark Twain)
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To: Captain Peter Blood

Yes, but she was preyed upon a lot earlier and very confused as a teen. The whole establishment abused her. Sure she made very stupid decisions about what college to attend and her major. All of it is emblematic of the sorry state of affairs we find ourselves in.


42 posted on 12/05/2022 9:23:16 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (If you're not part of the solution, you're just scumming up the bottom of the beaker!)
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To: EEGator

True story. Gotten me in trouble a few times but always delivered 🤣


43 posted on 12/05/2022 9:23:59 AM PST by GenX4Real (After Tuesday even the calendar says W T F)
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To: EEGator
"We need to bring back mental hospitals."

Yes, many of them. It would have a big impact on the homeless problem also. Why did we shut them down in the first place, in the 80's I believe.

This individual had a slew of mental disorders. Talk about a giant red flag. What is wrong with the medical establishment that they outright ignore the underlying mental problems and say, "Yes, mutilate yourself. You'll know who you are then." I read about detransitioning every week.

44 posted on 12/05/2022 9:24:11 AM PST by A Navy Vet (USA Birth Certificate - 1787. Death Certificate - 2021? )
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To: Jeff Chandler
former trans kids hunted down by liability lawyers…

Almost all lawyers are extremely far left, so don't expect that to be a very big bandwagon.

True, most of them are far left. But, their greed overrides their politics and if there’s a fortune to be made by suing doctors you can bet more than a few will do it. If there’s a more unethical and money hungry profession than lawyers I’ve never see it.

45 posted on 12/05/2022 9:25:38 AM PST by GaryCrow
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To: karpov
"By the time she reached her mid-20s, she embraced a nonbinary label and used she/they pronouns. All the while, she was struggling with a slew of mental-health issues, including anxiety disorder, social anxiety, PTSD, major depressive disorder and ADHD."

Where were the mental health professionals with all those signs?

46 posted on 12/05/2022 9:25:42 AM PST by A Navy Vet (USA Birth Certificate - 1787. Death Certificate - 2021? )
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To: GenX4Real

“I have tiger’s blood and Adonis DNA...”
:)


47 posted on 12/05/2022 9:26:15 AM PST by EEGator
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To: thegagline

I don’t know if she’ll lose. With her multiple mental health diagnoses, she may be able to convince a jury that a reasonable doctor should or could have known that she was too mentally ill to understand the quality or nature of what she was consenting to. IMO, anyone who wants to be sexually mutilated is sick right out of the gate.


48 posted on 12/05/2022 9:26:44 AM PST by Spok
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To: A Navy Vet

I think they were closed due to being cruel.
Leaving crazy people homeless is far worse for everyone.
They just need to be open about treatment and medication.


49 posted on 12/05/2022 9:27:45 AM PST by EEGator
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To: karpov

I think what people don’t realoze is that people rely on experts to advuse them and so experts sgould be hekd accountable for the advice.

If I go to an accountant and he tells me to do this and that, I am going to believe him, because otherwise why am I paying him?

So if you go to a shrink of some sort, you treat them as an expert. They are supposed to take care of you and give you good advice.

This is why I find this whole movement so scary: they are talking with people with problems for which they are seeking solutions. Solve the problems they have, don’t diagnose them with an “easy” problem that ends up with extremely lucrative solutions paid for by insurance (ie, our money) mandated by the US government.

Yeah, even though she was 30, she gets to sue just as much as a 30-year-old who is ripped off by anyobe else.


50 posted on 12/05/2022 9:28:16 AM PST by Chicory
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To: OHPatriot

Her doctors misdiagnosed her and removed body parts that never needed to be removed.

That sounds like a solid case.


51 posted on 12/05/2022 9:29:00 AM PST by Tired of Taxes
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>P?Looking but don't think she's gonna find them.
52 posted on 12/05/2022 9:29:03 AM PST by deport
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To: karpov

Good for her/him/it.


53 posted on 12/05/2022 9:30:11 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: EEGator

🤣🤣🤣


54 posted on 12/05/2022 9:30:11 AM PST by GenX4Real (After Tuesday even the calendar says W T F)
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To: brownsfan

“Good luck with that. I think the case would be stronger suing her parents.”

In a sane world, she would win. Her mistake is only asking for $850,000.

I hope she sends them into oblivion.


55 posted on 12/05/2022 9:32:01 AM PST by odawg
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To: thegagline

Not necessarily. It depends on how much she can prove that they short tracked her informed consent. A patient can claim that they did not really understand all the implications of any given procedure, especially one that is elective. In their consent form, if they have a line that says ‘regret that you did this and wish you hadn’t” that could protect the medical personnel; but even so if the said their approach was “here sign this”, but did not line item review the consent, she has a case. Especially since I think a jury in general would sympathize with a woman who had healthy breasts removed with minimal pre-surgical counseling.
If nothing else, the medical center will settle out of court to avoid more bad press.


56 posted on 12/05/2022 9:32:11 AM PST by swingdoc
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To: brownsfan

Agreed,,,,,you know she signed waivers.


57 posted on 12/05/2022 9:33:15 AM PST by chopperk
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To: odawg

Wouldn’t the medical personnel’s insurance be the ones to pay?
Are they bound by law to cover such medical surgeries?


58 posted on 12/05/2022 9:34:23 AM PST by EEGator
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To: brownsfan

Sorry but the “IT” is was an adult UNLESS OF COURSE if it ids as a teen also.


59 posted on 12/05/2022 9:37:47 AM PST by Harpotoo (Being a socialist is a lot easier than having to WORK like the rest of US:-))
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

No sympathy here, either. But I hope she bankrupts the monsters who mutilate children for profit. “The enemy of my enemy..” and all that.


60 posted on 12/05/2022 9:37:48 AM PST by LouAvul (Daniel 4:17: "..the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will.." )
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