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Ukraine set to ban churches 'affiliated' with Russia
France 24 English ^ | 12/2/22 | Staff

Posted on 12/02/2022 8:56:28 AM PST by Its All Over Except ...

The Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelenskiy has said the government will draw up a law banning churches affiliated with Russia, saying the move is necessary to prevent Moscow being able to "weaken Ukraine from within." The National Security and Defence Council of Ukraine, which groups top security, military and political figures, told the government to draft the law following a series of raids on parishes that Kyiv says could be taking orders from Moscow.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; Russia
KEYWORDS: fascism; homosexualagenda; lastdays; neocons4biden; penispianoplayer; persecution; religiousbigotry; russia; ukraine; zelensky; zelenskyworshippers
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To: crz; lightman

That’s the Ukrainian Nazis! Their victims were mainly Poles!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacres_of_Poles_in_Volhynia_and_Eastern_Galicia

Unfortunately, there are still some Ukrainian Nazis today!!


41 posted on 12/02/2022 10:16:02 AM PST by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Brief correction: after further reading, it looks like out of all Eastern Orthodox churches, it is only a minority (not a majority) that recognize the OCU after its formation a few years ago, allegedly due to accusations of canonical irregularities with its formation.

As such, as far as the Eastern Orthodox are concerned, at least a majority recognize the UOC as the “legitimate” church for the Orthodox laity in Ukraine.


42 posted on 12/02/2022 10:17:25 AM PST by Ultra Sonic 007 (There is nothing new under the sun.)
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To: crz; MeganC
That would include all Orthodox Churches in that region.

It wouldn't. Orthodoxy in Ukraine is split between those which recognise the Moscow Patriarchate, and those which recognise the Constantinople Patriarchate. This ban affects only the former.

45 posted on 12/02/2022 10:25:32 AM PST by Winniesboy
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To: Sacajaweau

That event was years before we were in the war, when Russia and the Nazis were approaching their friendship, and only months before they were invading Poland together.


46 posted on 12/02/2022 10:29:33 AM PST by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: CaptainCarrollton

Ukraine has been a free separate country for over 30 years. Most of the people who live in Ukraine have lived most of their life free from Russian control.

For Russia to try to press an ownership claim now, would be like the Greeks who originally settled Crimea to claim Crimea belongs to them.


47 posted on 12/02/2022 10:30:13 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: Winniesboy

The Orthodox in Ukraine who recognized the Moscow Patriarchate declared their independence in May 2022 in response to the invasion.

At least de facto, there are currently no branches of Eastern Orthodoxy in Ukraine who claim communion with Moscow.


48 posted on 12/02/2022 10:43:05 AM PST by Ultra Sonic 007 (There is nothing new under the sun.)
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To: Its All Over Except ...

First the media, then opposition parties, now churches. Hitler would be very proud of him.


49 posted on 12/02/2022 10:56:54 AM PST by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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To: All

Here’s more: Zelensky’s government has been raiding Ukrainian Orthodox churches and arresting priests as well?

“Zelensky announces a decree banning religious organizations and churches in Ukraine with “ties to Russia.”

His government has also been raiding Ukrainian Orthodox churches and arresting priests.”

https://twitter.com/greg_price11/status/1598723160228081664?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1598723160228081664%7Ctwgr%5Ef4b5a28ffee82e21a5cc4c49498c6ca38170fc08%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rebelnews.com%2Fzelensky_ban_ukrainian_orthodox_church


50 posted on 12/02/2022 11:02:22 AM PST by Its All Over Except ...
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To: MeganC

The Bund was a fellowship organization, that only allowed only American citizens of German descent. It wasn’t a religion practiced by thousands of people, and it didn’t begin in Germany. We’ve been at war with muslims since 9/11, yet their mosques are allowed in all 50 states.


51 posted on 12/02/2022 11:05:42 AM PST by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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To: DannyTN

Get real......or are you an anti Christian too?


52 posted on 12/02/2022 11:25:27 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience)
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To: MeganC

Well by that logic we should close every mosque in the United States, after all some of those “religious leaders” support Al Qaeda and they are at war with the USA and terrorists to boot.

Don’t misunderstand me, I have no problem shutting down every rathole mosque in the country, they are just meeting and recruitment centers for raghead terrorists anyway.


53 posted on 12/02/2022 11:32:16 AM PST by 5th MEB
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To: 5th MEB

“Well by that logic we should close every mosque in the United States, after all some of those “religious leaders” support Al Qaeda and they are at war with the USA and terrorists to boot.”

Yes.


54 posted on 12/02/2022 1:22:09 PM PST by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: mass55th

“We’ve been at war with muslims since 9/11, yet their mosques are allowed in all 50 states.”

We’ve been at war with Islam since the United States came into existence. Our very first war was against the Islamic pirates and slave traders of North Africa.


55 posted on 12/02/2022 1:23:23 PM PST by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: Sacajaweau

“And at the same time, Nazis were allowed to parade through the streets of NYC...and were not stopped in any way.”

Utter hogwash!!! Once Hitler declared war on the USA there were no more Nazi parades of any kind. Never mind the government, angry mobs of loyal Americans would have murdered them.


56 posted on 12/02/2022 1:25:22 PM PST by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: MeganC
"We’ve been at war with Islam since the United States came into existence. Our very first war was against the Islamic pirates and slave traders of North Africa."

True, but that was off the coast of this country, not in it. If there were any muslim terrorist attacks within the country at that time, I don't ever remember learning about them in school, yet after 9/11, this country allowed the influx of muslims, even radical ones, and allowed them to spread their Sharia Law, and their mosques around the country. And the left has been trying non-stop to destroy Catholicism, not only with their attempts to destroy Christmas, and what it stands for, but also by forcing Catholic nuns, Catholic-connected hospitals, and other religious institutions to unconstitutionally violate their religious beliefs, and practices. How many times will they be allowed to sue Colorado cake maker Jack Phillips? According the liberals...as many times as it takes to break him.

57 posted on 12/02/2022 6:32:50 PM PST by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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To: Its All Over Except ...

Ukraine is a shit hole run by nazis, that’s why E. Ukraine wants to secede.


58 posted on 12/02/2022 6:39:35 PM PST by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera )
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To: Its All Over Except ...
We didn't put up with religious organizations in the US getting orders from Berlin or Tokyo in 1941. It's sad to see so many serlf-procralaimed conservatives rooting for the KGB and the communist-controlled Russian Orthodox Church and their Ukranian collaborators.
Kyiv was the seat of Rus and Slavic Orthodoxy, before Moscow existed.
59 posted on 12/04/2022 12:55:43 AM PST by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers." )
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