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I'm glad this is happening. Fewer employers would require college degrees if (1) fewer people went to college (2) employers could test applicants (as the military uses the AFQT) without fear of disparate impact.

1 posted on 11/26/2022 7:38:37 AM PST by karpov
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Might be better to train new employees instead of hoping they show up with all the skills they need.


2 posted on 11/26/2022 7:42:17 AM PST by escapefromboston (Free Chauvin)
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If they didn’t vow to stop hiring straight white males over 40 years of age they wouldn’t have to lower their standards!


3 posted on 11/26/2022 7:42:56 AM PST by 100%FEDUP
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The power to hire should be in the hands of the Managers, not HR.

I’m in engineering, and HR are always the least intelligent and subject knowledge educated in every firm.

The idea that some fat black chick who hasn’t gone beyond College Algebra can tell a PE of 20 years who to hire is insane.

The only way engineering firms can make diversity quotas is to put black females in almost all non technical positions.


4 posted on 11/26/2022 7:45:25 AM PST by EEGator
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Yay...beginning of the end for colleges & universities...hopefully


6 posted on 11/26/2022 7:46:27 AM PST by goodnesswins (The Chinese are teaching calculus to their 3rd graders while ours are trying to pick a pronoun.)
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This is part of the plan to make folks dumber, it’s easier to do, opposite making people smarter.


7 posted on 11/26/2022 7:47:17 AM PST by Rappini (In hoc signo vinces)
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What? There’s no market for new grads in Radical Feminism, Anti-Imperialism, Intersectional Intersectionalism, Gay Studies, Transgender Activism, Toxic Masculinity, Understanding White Privilege, or Microaggressions?


8 posted on 11/26/2022 7:48:19 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (If you're not part of the solution, you're just scumming up the bottom of the beaker!)
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Actually, it makes a huge amount of sense to advertise for people without degrees, test potential recruits, determine their aptitudes, and hire on that basis rather than requiring often worthless degrees.

People without degrees can be less expensive and much more loyal because they are (at least for the time being) less mobile. On top of that, you can train them the way you want.

If they are younger, you can take the time to cross-train them to expose them to a variety of different departments and disciplines.

9 posted on 11/26/2022 7:48:31 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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and as organizations try to address racial disparities in the workplace

Lower the standards again!

11 posted on 11/26/2022 7:52:47 AM PST by FoxInSocks ("Hope is not a course of action." — M. O'Neal, USMC)
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Yep. Have a list of job requirements that would fill one of those 7-foot-long CVS receipts, don’t expect many applicants.


13 posted on 11/26/2022 7:55:13 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (FBI out of Florida!)
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I have had one job in my life, full time for 41 years. I own the place now, a tool and die company.

To be honest anything above general knowledge of the trade is a handicap many times for hiring, someone with a decent work ethic and who can read prints and a set of mics is my preferred hire. I still prefer to train hands on the way we do things, and not have to un-train them first.

(I usually am referring to former union workers, or “machinists” with 20+ years of experience that have done nothing but close a vise and hit the green button. Never had one work out going into tool and die ever, yet on paper they look excellent)


16 posted on 11/26/2022 7:56:27 AM PST by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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have reduced educational requirements for certain positions and shifted hiring to focus more on skills and experience.


capitalism and the marketplace are still there.

Be encouraged by little things.


18 posted on 11/26/2022 8:00:18 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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But keep in mind, you can’t do any job now without some certification. Why certification? My opinion? Govt regulations and liability.


19 posted on 11/26/2022 8:02:39 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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It was really stupid to have to take certain courses for my degree in Engineering. Just a waste of time and money. Let ME choose the extra courses necessary to obtain a degree.


25 posted on 11/26/2022 8:11:37 AM PST by Sacajaweau ( )
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Well one area I don’t see the elite changing their minds is news reporting. In the
Past a good news reporter started from the bottom apprenticing in the business and become a great reporter even if they only had an 8th grade education and bias need not apply just the ability to describe a scene. Now it is required to have 4-6 years of training and indoctrination to write a certain way, now use woke language ( not every college but most), and train each “journalist” to write as if they were on the editorial page. New it is pro forma for the journalist to express their point of view on how they want you to think about any event rather than “allowing” the reader to make their own conclusions. Too many narcissists with don quijote syndrome write articles for whatever cause they or idea they want to think. I have wade through ideological defecation some sod wants me to agree with before I can read the facts to conduct real critical thinking.


28 posted on 11/26/2022 8:12:39 AM PST by Liaison (TANSTAAFL)
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99% of degrees are totally worthless.

Certifications and an excellent work ethic is what ne needs.

Coming from a guy with 2 masters in IT and multiple prof. certifications.

The trouble is this going to take many many years for the people that are hiring (with degrees) to overcome the stigma of not having a degree.

They figure, I had to do all the work in college so you should as well.


30 posted on 11/26/2022 8:15:31 AM PST by Hammerhead
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I think many jobs would be better served if a degree wasn’t their first target. I think they would mostly be surprised with the improvements.


31 posted on 11/26/2022 8:19:07 AM PST by Irenic
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A monkey can be trained to watch a dial in a Nuke power plant and hit an emergency button if needed.


34 posted on 11/26/2022 8:29:39 AM PST by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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... as organizations try to address racial disparities in the workplace.

Good grief!

They seem to thing every white person has at least a four-year degree.

Maybe in Silicon Valley and the Leftist Northeast, but just no everywhere else.

So many white people with only high school diplomas goes against their narrative... Or stupidity, if they can't think out of the box of their neo-liberal enclaves. Amirite? Nobody they knew voted for Nixon--how could he win???!!!

And don't get them started on Rednecks... Those people are all MAGA racist supremacists bitterly clinging to their guns and Bibles.

38 posted on 11/26/2022 8:38:11 AM PST by Alas Babylon! (Rush, we're missing your take on all of this!)
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When I was in the garbage business we never hired licensed experienced truck drivers to drive garbage trucks. We always trained new drivers from scratch with zero truck driving experience. Why? Habits, life long habits from driving regular trucks that would cause serious liability issues operating garbage trucks. The most serious issue was they never look UP. They would get half tired and forget to look up before lifting containers. And they were extremely over confident all the time.

I think in some industries this would be a better practice. I have met a whole lot of “educated idiots” in my lifetime who had absolutely no common sense or analytic skills.


39 posted on 11/26/2022 8:39:22 AM PST by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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Is there any data out there as to how many employable people are not working because of the government largess????


41 posted on 11/26/2022 8:42:04 AM PST by elpadre (W )
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