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Putin goes relatively silent on Ukraine war: ‘If he lost somewhere, first, it’s untrue, — and, second, it wasn’t him’
MSN ^ | 11-19

Posted on 11/19/2022 2:11:32 PM PST by dennisw

Independent political analyst Dmitry Oreshkin attributed Putin’s silence to the fact he has built a political system akin to that of the Soviet Union, in which a leader — or “vozhd” in Russian, a term used to describe Josef Stalin — by definition is incapable of making mistakes.

“Putin and Putin’s system … is built in a way that all defeats are blamed on someone else: enemies, traitors, a stab in the back, global Russophobia — anything, really,” Oreshkin said. “So if he lost somewhere, first, it’s untrue, and second — it wasn’t him.”

When Russia’s top military brass announced in a televised appearance that they were pulling troops out of the key city of Kherson in southern Ukraine, one man missing from the room was President Vladimir Putin.

As Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu and Gen. Sergei Surovikin, Russia’s chief commander in Ukraine, stiffly recited the reasons for the retreat in front of the cameras on Nov. 9, Putin was touring a neurological hospital in Moscow, watching a doctor perform brain surgery.

Later that day, Putin spoke at another event but made no mention of the pullout from Kherson — arguably Russia’s most humiliating withdrawal in Ukraine. In the days that followed, he hasn’t publicly commented on the topic.

Putin’s silence comes as Russia faces mounting setbacks in nearly nine months of fighting. The Russian leader appears to have delegated the delivery of bad news to others — a tactic he used during the coronavirus pandemic.

Putin, who was once rumored to personally supervise the military campaign in Ukraine and give battlefield orders to generals, appeared this week to be focused on everything but the war.

(Excerpt) Read more at msn.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
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1 posted on 11/19/2022 2:11:32 PM PST by dennisw
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To: dennisw

Independent political analyst Dmitry Oreshkin==

Meaning a western stooge on a payroll))).. C’mon denis))).


2 posted on 11/19/2022 2:14:27 PM PST by nickfrost1
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To: dennisw

Delusional, fake, Tsar Putin dodges all responsibility for his vainglorious war on Ukraine.

Sending young Russian men to their deaths? Not his problem, and he doesn’t care anyways. So much for “The Great Russian People”..... Warmonger Putin cannot croak too soon.


3 posted on 11/19/2022 2:15:59 PM PST by dennisw ("You don't have to like it. You just have to do it")
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To: nickfrost1

Gin up a more clever comment.


4 posted on 11/19/2022 2:17:56 PM PST by dennisw ("You don't have to like it. You just have to do it")
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It’s because there are a million Russian Spetnatz troops slowly crawling up to the front lines. They will remain quiet until the whistle blows and they will all stand up at once, and then March through Ukraine to the Polish border. Then Ukraine will become the newest province of Russia.

Then there will be no NATO troops on Russia’s borders.

Oh. Wait. Never mind.

(Sarcasm)


5 posted on 11/19/2022 2:18:31 PM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: dennisw

and now he wants another conscription after New Years

that means this could be the last Christmas for a lot of young Russian men, before the Tsar sends them to their deaths

and for what?


6 posted on 11/19/2022 2:18:43 PM PST by canuck_conservative (20 years of being over target!!!)
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To: dennisw

Yes, because his replacement will ride a Skittle pooping unicorn.

The next might very well be worse.


7 posted on 11/19/2022 2:19:10 PM PST by EEGator
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To: nickfrost1
Meaning a western stooge on a payroll)))

I'm sure that the monthly checks from the CIA and MI-6 make a comfortable living for Dmitry...

8 posted on 11/19/2022 2:21:31 PM PST by kiryandil (put yer vote in the box, chump. HARHARHARHAR)
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To: EEGator

the next could be better, too


9 posted on 11/19/2022 2:24:12 PM PST by canuck_conservative (20 years of being over target!!!)
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To: dennisw
Putin’s system … is built in a way that all defeats are blamed on someone else: enemies, traitors, a stab in the back, global Russophobia....

....Baskets of deplorables, MAGA followers, Trumpists, insurrectionists, white supremacists, rednecks, GOP voters.

10 posted on 11/19/2022 2:24:36 PM PST by PGR88
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To: dennisw

My opinion is the fake Tsar spends most of his time in his lavish Sochi compound, brooding and getting Dr Feelgood ejections and treatments to (hopefully) ward off the inevitable. Which Grim Reaper will be sweeping Vlad up within 6 months.


11 posted on 11/19/2022 2:24:42 PM PST by dennisw ("You don't have to like it. You just have to do it")
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To: nickfrost1

“Western stooge”?

You sound like a Soviet apparatchik or Chicom.


12 posted on 11/19/2022 2:26:34 PM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: dennisw

Oh… so like we have in the US now with Joe Biden.


13 posted on 11/19/2022 2:28:00 PM PST by Skywise
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To: dennisw
Independent political analyst Dmitry Oreshkin

The Interweb is full of independent political analysts pontificating.

14 posted on 11/19/2022 2:28:28 PM PST by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: Vermont Lt
Then there will be no NATO troops on Russia’s borders. Oh. Wait. Never mind.

That's the argument that never made sense from the moment it was first made. If the land they're taking truly is part of Russia, then they're actually bringing the borders of NATO even closer to Russia by annexing that land.

15 posted on 11/19/2022 2:29:19 PM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: EEGator

“Yes, because his replacement will ride a Skittle pooping unicorn.....The next might very well be worse.___________”

Vlad’s replacement can be a hardliner or moderate. They will all wash their hands of Vlad’s dumbass war. Remember — The business of Russia is business. This war does nothing positive for Russia, the oligarchs and the Kremlin honchos

The business of Russia is selling hydrocarbons to all of Europe. Diseased, cancerous, Vlad ruined this best deal ever. No one in Russia needs him or likes him. So Vlad is gone by March, one way or another.

The only people who like Vlad are some nuts here at Free Republic. He is their anti-gay, anti-globohomo spirit animal. Their comforting teddy bear


16 posted on 11/19/2022 2:34:41 PM PST by dennisw ("You don't have to like it. You just have to do it")
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To: All

View all things through the prism of civilization’s lifeblood — oil.

The Caspian oil source in total is fully 1/2 of Russia’s daily production. It transports north along the Volga river, and on it in barges, but mostly high tech pipelines alongside. There is a river choke point. It is the city of Volgograd.

It is less than 100 miles from the eastern border of the Donbas.

There was never any way NATO could be allowed that close to the flow that will eventually define Russia as dominant. They have more surface area. Their flow will run out last.

View all things through the prism of oil.


17 posted on 11/19/2022 2:38:47 PM PST by Owen (ALL)
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To: dennisw

If Soros were winning, the propaganda would not be necessary.


18 posted on 11/19/2022 2:43:26 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is ████ █ ██████ ███████ ███ ██████ ██ ████████.)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

“If the land they’re taking truly is part of Russia, then they’re actually bringing the borders of NATO even closer to Russia by annexing that land.”

Stop making sense.

L


19 posted on 11/19/2022 2:45:25 PM PST by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: dennisw
Fallen stars

Lapin: Russian general



Shoigu: Russian Defense Minister



Putin



Rising star

Prigozhin: the head of Wagner mercenaries



Kadyrov: Chechen warlord



Surovikin: Russian general


20 posted on 11/19/2022 2:47:21 PM PST by TigerLikesRoosterNew
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