Posted on 11/16/2022 6:35:38 AM PST by karpov
Donald Trump announced his 2024 presidential campaign Tuesday night, heavy with the odor of a man fighting the last war. But politics is all about matching the man to the moment. Trump’s moment was six years ago. The nation’s voters have moved on, and if early signs are any indication, Republican primary voters are ready to consider doing so as well.
The 2022 midterms were about as decisive a failure for Trump as it was possible for them to be. Consider, as one item of evidence, the exit polls. Exit polls are not perfect; even though they should have the advantage over other polls of polling only people who actually voted, they still have their known biases and shortcomings. Still, they are the only evidence we get of who voted for whom and why at the time of the actual election, and when they deliver messages in bold, screaming letters, we should listen.
The 2022 exit polls examined the national House electorate and 19 Senate and/or governors races across eleven states — Arizona, Florida, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, New Hampshire, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Texas, and Wisconsin. Two of the clearest findings across all of these races are that (1) Donald Trump is profoundly unpopular with the people who voted in 2022 and (2) Trump was a fatal drag on many Republican candidates.
On the first point, look at Trump’s favorability ratings. He is viewed unfavorably by a solid majority of the midterm voters nationally (by a 19-point margin of 58 percent to 39 percent), and in every state polled, even places such as Texas (52 percent disapproval to 45 percent approval), Ohio (53 percent to 44 percent), and North Carolina (53 percent to 43 percent) that he won two years ago.
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McLaughlin the same guy that guaranteed Trump would lose in 2016. He’s one of the original and most notorious Never Trumpers.
I pound on Trump 7 x 24? Until a year ago, I supported him running again. And he didn’t lose me for certain until he boasted about how this last election was a great win - FOR HIM! Until he followed it up by trashing good Republican governors!
And I’ve still promised to vote for Trump if he wins the Republican primary!
What about you? If Trump loses the primary, will you vote for the person who beats him? Or is Trump your God?
Rehabilitate his image? By what? Accepting all the fake news sent his way? Pleading guilty to all the fake crimes? Accepting the 2020 elections as free and fair? He didnt do anything to tarnish his own image, the media tries to do that and its up to the intellect (or lack thereof) of the news consumer to decypher the garbage from the facts.
His speech last night was perfect. Its 2 years from an election and everyone already knew what the announcement was going to be weeks ago. We should be throwing a party at FR?
I dislike Trump either high or low energy. His energy isn’t my issue. It’s the content (or lack thereof). It’s funny that people routinely get chastised around here simply for saying they prefer a candidate other than Trump.
Rubio was hardly tied to Trump. And Vance grossly underperformed DeWine, winning by 7 points while DeWine won by 25 points!
When a Senate candidate wins, but underperforms the same party’s nominee for governor by 18 points, it isn’t impressive.
Stopped reading right there.
FTX disaster will change this. We now have a reason to impeach and remove Biden. Misappropriation of state funds, fraud, wire fraud, tax evasion, and money laundering are number one on the indictment against President Biden.
They didn’t. Almost all his swing state endorsements lost.
If we are stupid enough to nominate a candidate as unpopular as Trump, then we deserve to lose.
I don’t think his recent anti-DeSantis rants do him any good. But I don’t consider Trump toxic. I think he has plenty of time to show how he would be a winnable candidate in 2024. But that will mean less, “The election was stolen.” and more outlining just how election integrity can be restored while making sure it is understood that states decide how elections are done. It will also mean showing he is aware of the bad choices made in his past tenure. His vision for this country is still legit and needs to be carried on.
What part of no inflation, $2.00/gas, energy independence, no smouldering Russian war, and a President respected around the world instead of a dementia patient and BJ whore, didn’t you like?
JD Vance and Ted Budd were and the polling on Trump was absolutely meaningless in those races.
The difference is the three states in question don't allow rampant voter fraud and ballot harvesting.
Arizona is a perfect case in point. It has to rank right up there with Utah among the states with the most inept and/or corrupt Republican Party leadership and voters. How many Freepers remember this progression of idiocy in that state?
1. Notorious RINO Jeff Flake announces that he won't run for re-election in 2018.
2. September 2018 ... Establishment hack John Kyl is named as interim U.S. Senator to replace the rancid carcass of John McCain.
3. November 2018 ... Establishment hack Martha McSally loses to Kyrsten Sinema in the 2018 election.
4. December 2018 ... Kyl resigns from his interim post, effective December 31st.
5. January 2019 ... AZ Gov. Doug Ducey announces that Kyl's replacement as interim U.S. Senator is -- get this -- Martha McSally.
6. November 2020 ... Martha McSally loses to Democrat Mark Kelly in the special election to fill out the remainder of McCain's term until 2022. This gives McSally the ignominious distinction of losing two consecutive U.S. Senate elections in Arizona -- with the SECOND one as an appointed incumbent after she lost the FIRST one.
“Having said that if I think for a moment DeoSanctus is anthing like the a$$hat you are then I will not vote.”
Then you are worshipping Trump. Drop the religion. This is politics. Politics requires accepting less than the ideal to get enough votes to win something.
I’m pissed beyond belief that Kari Lake and Blake Masters lost. I blame the McCain wing of the AZ GOP. But I either find a way to form an alliance with them, or accept losing forever. I don’t consider losing an option!
“We now have a reason to impeach and remove Biden...”
and make Kamala President.
Seriously?
Armchair RINO’s think they hold influence and can pass off their mega bullshit. The election day exit polls and the places where there were real elections bely this drivel.
One at a time. One at a time.
Trump endorsed Rubio, but no one in Florida would believe they are tied at the hip! Rubio has built a track record and was running on his own record, not Trump’s endorsement. They were reluctant allies.
JD Vance underperformed DeWine by 18 points! And you are impressed?
Do you really think an impeachment with zero chance of conviction is a winner for the next campaign for POTUS?
You're obviously not arguing in good faith anymore.
In Arizona, you had 30%-50% of the tabulators ONLY IN HIGHLY-RED PRECINCTS not working; reports of tabulators working until an election tech showed up;
thousands of voters told to go elsewhere;
ballots on the wrong size paper (again, only in highly red districts);
people being told in the highly red distrcts to put their ballots into "Box 3" -- and the contents were then "accidentally" put into large plastic bags mixed with already-counted votes, so there was no way to tell which ballots had not yet been counted;
one of the election judges reporting this was threatened with firing for talking about it;
election workers shouting down a woman who had just tried to vote, going to those waiting in line to warn them of problems;
Exit polling showing Dems got 17% of the same-day in-person vote, but the actual recorded votes showing Dem totals so high, they'd have had to get 100% of the Dem AND 100% of the independent vote (this despite the overwhelming pre-election popularity of Lake);
and major discrepancies in vote totals for different offices (including some number of ballots I can't recall, which ONLY had a vote for governor, just like happened with the middle of the night drops for Biden in swing states in 2020).
That's off the top of my head; there may be many more I haven't run across.
Which poll was correct this time around? The action is already on to destroy Trump any way they can, lie, steal, cheat, anything.
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