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Disturbing: Women Can Now Get An Abortion At Nine Months In California as Proposition 1, giving the “right” to abortion and contraception in the state constitution, is approved by voters
Townhall ^ | 11/09/2022 | Sarah Arnold

Posted on 11/09/2022 9:57:03 PM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: Pajamajan

We need to call it what it is: Infanticide and Murder.


21 posted on 11/09/2022 11:33:39 PM PST by vivenne
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To: SauronOfMordor

Sadly, you are correct.


22 posted on 11/09/2022 11:34:58 PM PST by vivenne
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To: SeekAndFind

“We have governors that won their re-elections tonight in other states that are banning books, that are banning speech, that is banning abortion,...”

And banning guns, and banning sales of new gas powered cars, and banning natural gas appliances, and gas powered lawn mowers, and plastic bags and straws..


23 posted on 11/09/2022 11:35:42 PM PST by lowbridge ("Let’s check with Senator Schumer before we run it" - NY Times)
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To: SeekAndFind

It has been this way since 1972. The US has allowed abortion up to the moment of birth for 50 years. Only 3 nations allow abortion up to the moment of birth.


24 posted on 11/09/2022 11:47:06 PM PST by Dave W
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To: SauronOfMordor

If this is the hill this morally bankrupt society wants to stand on at all costs, it doesn’t deserve to survive.


25 posted on 11/09/2022 11:47:09 PM PST by JamesP81 (The Democrat Party is a criminal organization.)
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To: nickcarraway

Because it is true - that’s why.


26 posted on 11/09/2022 11:49:00 PM PST by Dave W
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To: SeekAndFind

The 65-35 is the fake number they put up now.

It’s weird. They fake results the same.


27 posted on 11/09/2022 11:50:30 PM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: SeekAndFind; Morgana; ransomnote
The left is not happy about this election. They were expecting a blue wave.
28 posted on 11/09/2022 11:53:29 PM PST by grey_whiskers ( (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.))
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To: JamesP81

It will not survive for long, James. It will destroy itself.


29 posted on 11/09/2022 11:58:21 PM PST by sport
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To: JamesP81
If this is the hill this morally bankrupt society wants to stand on at all costs, it doesn’t deserve to survive.

I don’t think it will survive. How will it all end? I don’t know. Mushrooms clouds maybe?

30 posted on 11/10/2022 12:17:13 AM PST by Mark17 (Retired USAF air traffic controller. Father of USAF pilot. USAF aviation runs in the family )
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To: SauronOfMordor

Another factor is that a lot of conservative and deeply religious countries do allow for first trimester abortions and later D&Cs without being as ideological over it as the USA.

Abortion in America has been artificially turned into a political absolutism that splits the religious people and the agnostics and the atheists.

My first child died in the womb 14 weeks into the pregnancy. DNC was the only option to save my wife’s life. I’m 100% against elective abortion of a living, viable fetus but I would’ve beaten the crap out of any moron who tried to conflate that with an act that killed no baby and was essential to the preservation of the mother’s life.

A sister of mine had an ectopic pregnancy and needed emergency surgery to live; despite her really having no option other than to choose life by having the operation she got harassed by morons who couldn’t tell the difference between a totally nonviable fertilised embryo and a healthy third trimester infant being killed by an evil choice.

Principles have to be immutable otherwise they are not principles.

The ultimate principles should be:

Hippocratic oath: First, do no harm. If the embryo or fetus is already dead or has no chance of survival AND doing nothing needlessly threatens the life of thf mother, the right to life of the unborn has already been ordained by God and God asks us to choose the mother. It is a test of conviction - a Pharisee strives officiously to save the unborn no matter how dangerous that is to the mother, a Christian accepts the will of God and chooses practicality with compassion over self serving officiousness.

The second principle is that a totally viable unborn child should never be killed no matter what the circumstances of its conception are. This principle is again only enforceable with compassion - a 14 year old girl who’s been raped by a close family member or community elder cannot be expected to marry her uncle and have her mind destroyed as a result; that’s no environmental to bring up a child in. The state, the law, the health and mental well-being of both mother and child, must trump any toxic religious convictions and perversions of the people around them.

And i say that as I am myself the by-product of a teenager being raped by a “pillar of the community” and now being in the fifth decade of dealing with the fallout from it. A sister born after me was raped and ended up in a mental institution, a brother died from neglect, my birth mom went insane from the abuse, and another sister died from drink and drugs after herself being abused.

I was lucky - the pre woke conservative Christian state decided my welfare was more important than the abusers’right to rape girls with impunity. My mom less so, her rights were below his so i got taken to safety and she was pushed back into his rape pool.


31 posted on 11/10/2022 12:17:30 AM PST by MalPearce ("You see, but you do not observe". https://www.thefabulous.co/s/2uHEJdj)
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To: SauronOfMordor

In my wife’s circle of friends, even normally Republican women were upset at the prospect of “losing control of their own bodies”.


I can’t imagine anything like this. Losing control over their bodies when they Plan B is available and there’s BC. Do they live a sheltered life and watch, “The Handmaid’s Tale”, series? Sounds like country club Republicans who have been sheltered all their lives.


32 posted on 11/10/2022 12:28:05 AM PST by sumuam
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To: SeekAndFind

How evil can people get!?
Yuck!!!


33 posted on 11/10/2022 2:28:39 AM PST by faithhopecharity (“Politicians are not born. They're excreted.” Marcus Tillius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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To: grey_whiskers

Good gravy. Such inaccurate information. Scotus did not rule away womens rights to anything. Just pushed it to the states. And ther was no right to abortion in the Constitution.
Preserving White Supremacy? No thought about the life of the child.


34 posted on 11/10/2022 3:06:48 AM PST by vivenne
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To: Pajamajan

No one can ever wonder why Germans sat back and “let” millions be exterminated in the 19040s. We are currently sitting back and “letting” millions of children be murdered.

Remember, it was “legal” to murder those people in th 1940s in Germany.


35 posted on 11/10/2022 3:17:48 AM PST by joma89 (Buy weapons and ammo, folks, and have the will to use them.)
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To: Vlad0
Single women? you mean harlots?

Proverbs 5:3-6.

For the lips of the adulterous woman drip honey, and her speech is smoother than oil; 4 but in the end she is bitter as gall, sharp as a double-edged sword. 5 Her feet go down to death; her steps lead straight to the grave. 6 She gives no thought to the way of life; her paths wander aimlessly, but she does not know it.

36 posted on 11/10/2022 3:18:15 AM PST by Ikeon (My fellow americans would put you in shackles if it meant they could not be bothered for one day. )
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To: JamesP81

At this rate, it is quite likely it won’t.

I’m sorry to say.


37 posted on 11/10/2022 3:20:10 AM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: SauronOfMordor

I no longer give people the excuse that they voted the way they did because they did not understand what they were voting for.

Instead, I have concluded these people are incapable of ever understanding the topics. I have spoken to way to many women who just give me a blank stare when I even start trying to explain a topic to them.


38 posted on 11/10/2022 3:21:48 AM PST by joma89 (Buy weapons and ammo, folks, and have the will to use them.)
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To: JamesP81
If this is the hill this morally bankrupt society wants to stand on at all costs, it doesn’t deserve to survive.

It's not a question of whether society deserves to survive. It's a question of what is possible to be accomplished.

We have now seen that abolishing abortion through the legislative process is not possible at this time. It is a battle that can only be won one heart at a time.

39 posted on 11/10/2022 3:21:58 AM PST by SauronOfMordor (The rot of all principle begins with a single compromise.)
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To: Mark17

[I don’t think it will survive]

It will not, IMHO. By so many indicators.

We are truly in the Last Days.


40 posted on 11/10/2022 3:22:59 AM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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