Posted on 10/03/2022 9:25:58 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
Organic Chemistry is a tough class, yes. I washed out of it myself. It’s a lot of work for 3 or 4 credit hours - far harder than many other sophomore courses with the same credit hours, yes.
Prof. Kurt Mislow also taught Chem 303/304 at Princeton during that time. I fondly recall an overfilled lecture hall on the first day with people sitting in the aisles. Prof. Mislow said something like "don't worry about seating, there will be plenty of room after the first hourly exam." He was right.
Some are lazy but my guess is kids on a premed track at NYU for the most part are not.
Some just don’t have the ability.
At this time no minority student is going to be told that they don’t have the chops to make it in their chosen field.
That is sad.
I remember when a teacher in a highly regarded private school pulled me aside to tell me that one of my black adopted children was receiving higher grades than she deserved in a couple of classes, and to be aware.
My science teacher son would say, “just wait until they get to P-Chem.”
Rght-wing organization brands several NYU profs as radical leftists
A website run by Turning Point USA accuses professors of spreading leftist views and discriminating against conservative students.
Tori Morales, Staff Writer,Apr 6, 2022
Six NYU faculty members have been accused of spreading left-wing propaganda and discriminating against conservative students by Professor Watchlist, a project launched in 2016 by right-wing group Turning Point USA.
The organization, co-founded and run by Charlie Kirk, aims to promote free speech, free-market capitalism and limited government to high school and college students to counteract what the organization characterizes as the dominance of leftist political beliefs within universities.
TPUSA’s website states that its purpose is to “expose and document college professors who discriminate against conservative students and advance leftist propaganda in the classroom.” The NYU professors on the list are Ulrich Baer, Ruth Ben-Ghiat, Amin Husain, Arthur Caplan, Mark Crispin Miller and Frank Leon Roberts.
It's possible that you're correct. However, you've failed to show any evidence to support your hypothesis, and failed to account for any confusing variables. Your bold claim "You are mistaken if you don't think etc." is on the same level as the global warming/climate change crowd's hysterical shrieking.
And, just for clarity: for a host of reasons, I rejected the creepy synthetic mRNA experiment and I recommend that other people avoid it.
I always thought that organic I & II were the roughest courses that I had to take. They ended up becoming my “one – up” on my son.
My son, before he received his EE and Biomed Eng degrees, was thinking about applying to med school, so he took organic, dropped it, took it again, dropped it, before finally passing it (he decided to become a lawyer after that – which he did).
Don’t give up hope: Miss 130IQ may well realize, after some time bagging burgers, that there’s more to life than burger-bagging and managing burger-baggers ... and pursue some other direction in life. Some people, even very intelligent people, need to be slapped in the face with reality.
Do restrooms in academia have diaper dispensers for students?
Asking for a friend... /s
No she is the example that many of us know of bright articulate people often well educated who cannot emotionally manage the stress of more than the minimum. Like the Yale dropout who is a night custodian, or the valedictorian who now resells clothes on ebay for minimum monies.
You can bet none of the complainers were Asian students.
I have an undergraduate degree with majors in chemistry and biology. I struggled with organic chemistry, perhaps because I took it as a freshman, having taken chemistry 101/102 in the summer prior to my fall semester. Fortunately my overall GPA and MCAT scores were sufficient for acceptance into medical school. Having practiced both academic and private medicine for over 40 years before retirement, organic chemistry played almost no role in my medical practice.
I ran into this old guy, while working summers during college, who’s job was to move barrels of flanges around in this hot dirty factory. It was tough physical work.
I bumped into him at a local dinner, and somehow got on the subject of calculus. Turned out he had a degree in mathematics (I had just completed a differential equations course, and knew the jargon, so I don’t think he was BS-ing me). He said that he couldn’t handle the stress of that occupation, preferring to do physical labor. He justified it by saying at 5 PM he punched out, and had nothing to worry about when he went home.
Organic Chemistry is one of the best predictors of success for anyone that is seeking education to be a doctor. Structures, reactions, and properties are easily compared to Anatomy, Physiology, and Pathology.
If you can’t “get it”, go do something else.
😆🤣😂🤪 Touché !!
I remember being in high school and college 30-something years ago and hearing about how difficult the organic chemistry classes were. They were always difficult, and, I suspect, for good reason. You need to be good at it to to be proficient at things like medicine (mentioned in article) and running an oil refinery or petrochemical plant.
It was always difficult. This professor was not out of line; the students were.
“You cannot emotionally learn organic chemistry.”
Excellent, i will use this for my pre- doctor students.
People like these will be responsible, directly or indirectly, for more fiascos like that pedestrian bridge collapse in Miami.
I’d love to take that course, even if I do horribly at it, just because even if I’m not good at it, I would still learn a lot. But that will have to wait until I have a steady job again. :-)
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