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Why Putin would want to blow up Nord Stream 2, and the advantages it gives him
The telegraph ^ | James crisp

Posted on 09/28/2022 1:29:11 PM PDT by NoLibZone

The Russian leader has a record of weaponising fuel supplies and believes his people can endure economic pain longer than western Europe

The suspected sabotage of the Nord Stream pipelines could be a page ripped straight from Vladimir Putin’s playbook of panic, escalation and misdirection.

The former KGB agent’s illegal war on Ukraine resulted in unprecedented Western sanctions against Moscow.

But the Russian president is confident that his people can endure economic pain longer and better than Europeans.

His calculation is that soaring gas prices and the cost of living crisis in a continent hopelessly addicted to Russian energy will turn the situation to his advantage.

European gas prices have been dropping for the last four days. On Tuesday, after news of the suspected attack, they rose by 20 per cent. The British price was up 33 per cent.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


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To: packagingguy

Its ridiculous Putin could just close pipeline at will. The MSM really think we are that stupid.


41 posted on 09/28/2022 1:56:54 PM PDT by es345st
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To: wiseprince

Many here are already defending Brandon even before CNN has had time to chime in.


42 posted on 09/28/2022 1:57:00 PM PDT by MNDude (Once you remove "they would never" from your vocabulary, it all begins to make sense)
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To: Yo-Yo

43 posted on 09/28/2022 1:57:28 PM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: blackdog

Well, he got what he wanted on February 22, when the Germans refused to certify NordStream 2 for operation. It’s been sitting there useless ever since. No need to blow it up.


44 posted on 09/28/2022 1:57:57 PM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: NoLibZone

Is this the first time the writer noticed that Putin is former KGB? Conservatives have been making that point for the last 20 years about Putin but Democrats didn’t seem to care then.


45 posted on 09/28/2022 1:58:12 PM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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To: hardspunned

The plan to destroy America plotted by the #JihadJunta is going precisely by their plan. B’tards that they are.


46 posted on 09/28/2022 1:58:30 PM PDT by Shady (The #JihadJunta: "We are now a nation of Men, Not of Laws. You are not as equal as we are...")
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To: DoughtyOne

I would like to add, that if Obama is running things behind
the scenes, we add in the idea that he would love to kill off
our relationships with our allies. That dynamic would support
the U. S. having attacked the pipeline, and perhaps willing
to attack rigs too.

I toss this out there, because some could read my words and
think I really think Russia did it. (the pipeline attack)

I don’t have a strong belief in who did this at this
point, but I do see some scenarios that could lead me
to think either side did it.


47 posted on 09/28/2022 1:59:16 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance the flag of the U S of A, and to the REPUBLIC for which stands.)
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To: MNDude

I’m amazed that FReepers are now defending the same cast of villains who brought us:

Iraq WMDs >> war where thousands died
Ukraine “Maidan” Coup 2014
Trump’s Ukraine Impeachment
Pushing Ukraine to join NATO, the long-declared Russian “go to war” red-line.

Now, FREEPERS suddenly love CNN, MSNBC, Victoria Nuland, etc etc etc.


48 posted on 09/28/2022 1:59:50 PM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: NoLibZone
There was literally no reason for Putin to blow up the pipeline. He controlled it at its source and it gave him tremendous leverage and would give him even more when Germans start freezing to death. So Putin definitely didn't do it, I wonder if anybody knows who did...


49 posted on 09/28/2022 1:59:52 PM PDT by dead (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_vFiUUcBkc)
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To: packagingguy

Who knows they could be this stupid, but it would take some special sort of stupid.


That has been self-evident since their invasion began.


50 posted on 09/28/2022 2:00:04 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: All

Illegal invasion ? Do you normally need a license to invade another country ?


51 posted on 09/28/2022 2:00:16 PM PDT by escapefromboston (Free Chauvin)
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To: HighSierra5
#7: "Why would Putin blow up the pipeline when he could simply shut it off? Right?"

Bingo!

But the same people who told us that President Trump was playing "4-D Chess", the same people who said Jeff Sessions "had a secret plan", the same people who excoriated our comments if we didn't "Trust the Plan!", these are the same people that are telling us Putin was playing 3-D chess and sabotaged his own pipeline. Uh huh. Uh huh. Uh huh.

52 posted on 09/28/2022 2:00:17 PM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie (LORD, grant thy people grace to withstand the temptations of the world, the flesh, and the devil.)
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To: NoLibZone

All of the Marxist State Muppets are spinning madly...


53 posted on 09/28/2022 2:00:26 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Biden not only suffers fools and criminals, he appoints them to positions of responsibility. )
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To: HighSierra5

Why would Putin blow up the pipeline when he could simply shut it off?

Note the word in the article: misdirection.


54 posted on 09/28/2022 2:01:00 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: DoughtyOne

55 posted on 09/28/2022 2:01:17 PM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee
You're thinking rationally.

Does a rational person threaten to use nuclear weapons, knowing what the doctrine of MAD is?

https://www.businessinsider.com/medvedev-nato-wont-help-ukraine-russia-fires-nukes-at-it-2022-9

56 posted on 09/28/2022 2:01:42 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag really necessary? Pray for President Biden: Psalm 109:8)
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To: NoLibZone

Tired of Brit and American media liars. Russia didn’t sabotage their own pipeline.


57 posted on 09/28/2022 2:02:25 PM PDT by dforest
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To: packagingguy

“This hurts Russia more than it helps them. Turning off the spigot on their end seems a lot easier.”

But they couldn’t blame the U.S.

I am not saying this is what happened, just addressing these fanciful theoreticals.


58 posted on 09/28/2022 2:02:38 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: Travis McGee

I’ve leaned heavily toward this type of scenario. It may
be a team with Soros and others involved too, but the things
Biden does seem to follow the things Obama was doing during
his terms in office.

They’re both about as destructive as two people could be.


59 posted on 09/28/2022 2:03:58 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance the flag of the U S of A, and to the REPUBLIC for which stands.)
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To: Yo-Yo

Business Insider is your authoritative source on what the Russians have said? LOL.

Instead of relying on clipped phrases, copy and paste entire paragraphs. The ones where the Russians said we’ll do a nuclear first strike. I’ll wait.

[Good grief, it’s embarrassing.]

I’ll bet that you, [like me], totally fell for the “Iraq WMD” false narrative that got us into a war unrelated to 9-11, where tens of thousands died.

I’ve learned, since then.


60 posted on 09/28/2022 2:04:49 PM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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