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EXCLUSIVE: NATO chief calls Putin's Ukraine escalation 'dangerous and reckless'
Reuters ^ | September 21, 2022 | Humeyra Pamuk and John Chalmers

Posted on 09/21/2022 7:24:33 AM PDT by Timber Rattler

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To: hardspunned

You are overlooking all of the patriotic Ukrainians that live in the Donbas. Human intelligence provided by them has been used to undermine Russian defenses and to destroy munition depots. The Ukrainian Army is not cannon fodder. It is one of the most intrepid forces on the planet. The many thousands of Russian speakers from the Donbas that serve in the Ukrainian Army have the homefield advantage over the Russians in the temporarily occupied areas.


21 posted on 09/21/2022 8:14:44 AM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (To the barricades !!!)
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To: lodi90

Payback’s a bitch eh? The failed Kharkov offensive is about to be responded to by a counter offensive from the Russian army which is about to pulverize the remaining Ukrainian troops and supplies.
It’s “stunning and brave” for Ukraine to attempt an offensive that was nothing more than a military publicity stunt, but when Russia responds, it’s murder and terrorism on the scale of Adolph Hitler.
It’s so obvious to all that Ukraine is done and I think most people now are worried about them using a nuke in a false flag operation to blame the Russians in their desperate last gasp at relevance.


22 posted on 09/21/2022 8:27:46 AM PDT by Rainwave ("Work out your OWN salvation with fear and trembling")
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To: lodi90

You don’t seem to get it. I don’t care. Our $75B is GONE. Our war making ability to project against our real existential threat, China, has been severely compromised. For what? Russia as threat to America? Please, other than a MAD exchange, Russia is not a threat to the US. Unless, of course, you’re out here hawking Hillary’s Russia, Russia, Russia paranoias. You tell me, if Clinton was full of crap, why did we pi$$ that $75B away?


23 posted on 09/21/2022 8:30:43 AM PDT by hardspunned (former GOP globalist stooge)
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To: hardspunned

Nobody said kicking Russian corruption out of Europe and opening those American job creating markets would be cheap. It’s a wise investment in Ukraine unless you want to Make Russia Great Again. Do you?


24 posted on 09/21/2022 8:36:36 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: Timber Rattler

The only interesting question in this entire affair is this: Who is willing to pay the highest price to win?

What about Vladimir Putin and centuries of Russian history would suggest choosing Biden, Macron and the Republican chickenhawks?

The Russians have a lot of options left short of nuclear, so we are not to that point ... yet. Our side will back down long before Putin need seriously to take up this prospect. In the interim the losses on all sides will be unimaginably high.


25 posted on 09/21/2022 8:40:02 AM PDT by drellberg
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The only interesting question in this entire affair is this: Who is willing to pay the highest price to win?

Might makes Right. Always has, always will.

26 posted on 09/21/2022 8:40:46 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Rainwave

LOL. This Russian meat is to hold the front. Russia is done advancing in a major way. They’ll keep pecking away at a village here or there but that is it. Russia has lost the shooting war and will try to rely on the usual Bolshevik version of “diplomacy” now.


27 posted on 09/21/2022 8:41:34 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: drellberg

Russia is losing to Ukrainian “farmers and miners.” No amount of NATO weapons would help if they did not fight for every inch of their land.


28 posted on 09/21/2022 8:43:10 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: Monterrosa-24

I’m overlooking nothing. You seem to think the Russians aren’t aware of what’s going on? You think the exact reverse isn’t true? Those magnificent Ukrainians were totally beaten until massive quantities of the best, highest tech weaponry in the world showed up. Yes, the Ukrainians are cannon fodder in worst sense of the world. This would have been negotiated last spring if the globalist warmongers in Brussels and DC had subverted the process and escalated up to the most advanced weapons on earth. Now, after six months of unnecessary killing we are where we would have been with a negotiated settlement. Russia will incorporate those four areas, dig in and wait for a NATO Fulda Gap type attack. Hopefully, that’s where it ends, dangerous, trillions of dollars a year, stalemate.


29 posted on 09/21/2022 8:43:27 AM PDT by hardspunned (former GOP globalist stooge)
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To: Timber Rattler
He isn't bluffing. Once the areas in Ukraine vote to join the Russian Federation, the Russians should and will take the gloves off and start sending NATO thugs back to their respective nations in body bags.

Americans aren't going to tolerate the loss of American lives in Ukraine, billions more being pumped into a war that has nothing to do with our national security or a sanction war that is fueling inflation.

It's past time to do what Trump recommened months ago -- negotiate and end to the war.

But, low-IQ baboons like Timber just want to keep doubling down regardless of how bad the outcome is going to be.

30 posted on 09/21/2022 8:44:48 AM PDT by Kazan
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Your hysteria rings hollow, Comrade Kazan.


31 posted on 09/21/2022 8:55:25 AM PDT by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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To: hardspunned

“...Ukrainians were totally beaten...”

That is demonstrably untrue. The Ukrainians have taken out great quantities of Russian light armor using obsolete RPGs and LAWs. They often have to save the Javelin’s and smart rockets for the highest threat vehicles and MBTs.

You have become completed perverted by Moscow’s expensive propaganda campaign. Otherwise, you would see who uses troops as cannon fodder and that would be pedophile Putin.


32 posted on 09/21/2022 9:04:47 AM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (To the barricades !!!)
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“Once the Lugansk and Donetsk People’s Republics, Zaporozhye and Kherson regions are integrated in the Russian Federation, THE GAME IS OVER,” said Paolo Raffone, director of the CIPI Foundation, a Brussels-based geopolitical think tank.”

‘Checkmate: Putin’s Address Marks Game Over for Kiev’s US & NATO Backers, Analysts Say’
https://sputniknews.com/20220921/checkmate-putins-address-marks-game-over-for-kievs-us—nato-backers-analysts-say-1101056726.html

Once those areas are part of Russia, the conflict cannot continue without the West or Ukraine committing aggression directly against Russia.


33 posted on 09/21/2022 3:16:17 PM PDT by cranked
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To: Timber Rattler

Listen old man, I'm not goimg to start WW-III for you.

34 posted on 09/21/2022 3:21:01 PM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: cranked

LOL! Sputnik News. ‘nuff said.


35 posted on 09/21/2022 3:23:58 PM PDT by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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To: Timber Rattler

Again, attacking the messenger and not the message.

Why not respond to and address your concerns, grievances, etc. to Paolo Raffone, director of the CIPI Foundation, a Brussels-based geopolitical think tank?

The stupid sh*t you consistently pull is like:

“LOL! Reuters, ‘nuff said.”

Knucklehead.


36 posted on 09/21/2022 3:27:39 PM PDT by cranked
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To: cranked

Why Comrade Cranked, the messenger deserves to be attacked when it’s Russian State Media.


37 posted on 09/21/2022 4:04:33 PM PDT by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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To: Timber Rattler

Just as most of the Western/US/UK/EU/NATO propaganda ridden media are instruments of the state. Applying you logic to things is mindnumbing.

But let’s throw a few more in for good measure:

“The theme of the bumbling Russians was clearly preconceived and coordinated, and commenced in earnest within the first 24 hours of hostilities. CIA/MI6 fronts like Oryx, Bellingcat, and the war-mongering Kagan family propaganda mill The Institute for the Study of War have pumped out this narrative so relentlessly that it has now been almost universally enshrined as “received wisdom” in the western state-controlled corporate media and among large numbers of clueless, arms industry-compromised former generals – even to the point of entering into the body of assumptions embraced by many “experts” who I expected to be more discerning.”

‘The United States Could Not Win and Will Not Fight a War Against Russia’
https://imetatronink.substack.com/p/the-united-states-could-not-win-andhtml


38 posted on 09/21/2022 4:20:27 PM PDT by cranked
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