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Russia may eventually demand surrender of Kiev regime — Medvedev
https://tass.com/ ^ | 9/12/2022 | tass

Posted on 09/12/2022 1:46:23 PM PDT by RomanSoldier19

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To: Revolutionary

You really think that is going to happen though. Right now Russia is getting their ass kicked. Unless they go nuclear they won’t really get much of anything. They may be lucky to keep Crimea the way this is going right now.


21 posted on 09/12/2022 2:32:50 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (Cancel Culture IS fascism...Let's start calling it that!)
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To: Gunslingr3

They are already said it was a planned regrouping. LOL


22 posted on 09/12/2022 2:33:18 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (Cancel Culture IS fascism...Let's start calling it that!)
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To: RomanSoldier19

Most likely scenario. Russia claims victory that special military operation objectives were achieved. This was never about occupying Ukraine.


23 posted on 09/12/2022 2:34:35 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (Cancel Culture IS fascism...Let's start calling it that!)
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To: delta7
Non western media confirmed, miles of Ukie ambulances filmed taking the Kherson wounded to surrounding cities, good footage from Odessa if you care to investigate…

Must be the Russian POWs.
24 posted on 09/12/2022 2:34:39 PM PDT by Dr. Franklin ("A republic, if you can keep it." )
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To: for-q-clinton

The US did this in their last three or more “wars”.

Time tested plan.


25 posted on 09/12/2022 2:42:42 PM PDT by epluribus_2
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To: Gunslingr3
How will the Kremlin spin the fall of Kherson?

There is no "fall."

The Russians strategically retreated and are now obliterating Ukraine's power, transit lines, and key infrastructure.

Russia is prepared to fight a long-term, slow-motion war, and our dumb asses keep giving Ukraine money and military gear that is rapidly depleting.

And winter is coming.

Ukraine won't make it through the end of this year.

26 posted on 09/12/2022 2:43:30 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: epluribus_2

Difference is we won the fight, but are too week to occupy.


27 posted on 09/12/2022 2:50:58 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (Cancel Culture IS fascism...Let's start calling it that!)
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To: lee martell

Sure they are they can demand Ukraine take back all the land they tried to steal.


28 posted on 09/12/2022 2:51:46 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (Cancel Culture IS fascism...Let's start calling it that!)
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To: trailboss800

Don’t need US media to show us the obvious...the tide has turned. Doesn’t mean it can’t go the other way as Ukraine tries to take back Russian aligned towns.


29 posted on 09/12/2022 2:54:37 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (Cancel Culture IS fascism...Let's start calling it that!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

yeah, but be careful you will hurt the keyboard commando brigade’s feelings


30 posted on 09/12/2022 2:55:15 PM PDT by Manuel OKelley
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To: kiryandil

truth


31 posted on 09/12/2022 2:55:24 PM PDT by Manuel OKelley
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist; Kazan
There is no "fall."

Not all of the people who think Russia is winning share that view. Do you think Kazan is mistaken about Kherson staying under Russian control?

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Gunslingr3 to Kazan

Crimea, Donetsk, Lugansk and Kherson will be under Russian control and stay under Russian control at end of this.

32 posted on 09/12/2022 2:57:17 PM PDT by Gunslingr3
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To: lee martell

“ He hasn’t needed to even acknowledge Trump until now”

Isn’t that odd ? Out of nowhere in the midst of a war Zelensky voices support for the gay agenda. Then again out of nowhere he apparently criticizes Trump when Trump isn’t involved in the war or even commenting on it. Is this how the Biden regime thinks they are going to win the midterms? Getting Zelensky to criticize the MAGA King ? Because when Trump has lost Zelensky…. What dumbasses.


33 posted on 09/12/2022 3:03:32 PM PDT by libh8er
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To: Gunslingr3

Its hard to see how Kherson can stay under Russian control. They are cut off from supplies and reinforcements and casualty replacements. At the moment they seem to only be able to get a ferry across once in while, before it is again sunk. And all the ferry approaches are under fire also. They dont have a usable airfield there, as these are under fire.

Its worse than Dien Bien Phu. They dont have the French fleet of C-47’s that could at least parachute supplies.

That is unsustainable. And that is why there has been buzz for several days about Russians negotiating either surrender or withrawal.


34 posted on 09/12/2022 3:09:23 PM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: for-q-clinton

“This was never about occupying Ukraine.”

I beg to differ. Russia’s demands were a de facto demand for occupation: Complete Ukrainian demilitarization; declared neutrality; accept Crimea as being part of Russia; accept LPR and DPR as independent states no longer part of Ukraine; a pro-Russia regime in Kiev. In other words, Ukraine to be gelded and subordinated to Russia.


35 posted on 09/12/2022 3:10:33 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: RomanSoldier19

Who’s the comedian now?

Russia continues to miscalculate.


36 posted on 09/12/2022 3:21:44 PM PDT by marron
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To: RomanSoldier19

Was Medvedev pounding his shoe on the table promising to bury us, too?


37 posted on 09/12/2022 3:23:46 PM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Ukraine won't make it through the end of this year.

Much better chance Putin won't make it through this year.

BTW, the Ukes already repaired most of the damage done yesterday and have the power back on.

We pounded the crap out of Germany in WWII. When troops entered the Ruhr, factories were still building tanks.

38 posted on 09/12/2022 3:28:09 PM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: ifinnegan
Medvedev’s goal in life is to stay alive and out of prison. Long odds on both.

Seems like if that was the case he could get on a plane right now and fly to some sympathetic country. Why doesn't he do that?

39 posted on 09/12/2022 3:33:41 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("The rat always knows when he's in with weasels."--Tom Waits)
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To: for-q-clinton

We did it finally in viet nam


40 posted on 09/12/2022 3:35:23 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds )
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