Posted on 09/01/2022 11:00:03 AM PDT by cotton1706
“I have never, do not currently and never will support slavery...what is even the point of asking that?”
I didn’t ask that. If you reread my comment I never asked if YOU supported slavery. I only asked if you thought slavery was a “fringe” issue in the early 1800s. If you think I am asking if you support slavery, then you obviously aren’t following my line of argument very carefully.
Nobody supports slavery nowadays, because the faction that supported slavery was permanently defeated and banished from polite society. As one of the factions in the abortion debate eventually must be as well. The only questions are which faction will lose, how long it will take for that to happen, and how much disruption our society will have to face before the inevitable resolution of the conflict.
“Look, we are getting creamed right now...use this energy towards the other side.”
I’m capable of having a friendly discussion and also opposing my political enemies too. I can walk and chew gum at the same time.
You can always change.
Stop supporting slavery.
That argument doesn’t work because those 63M people would be raised by liberals and probable would grow up to be them. By and large it isn’t conservatives getting abortions!
Not nearly enough incumbents are being defeated. Sad, but true.
You are not making intelligent arguments...please stop addressing my comments.
You believe that you are making a point but you are not. Slavery was never seen as a fringe issue...we fought a civil war over it...why are you asking me if I think it was a fringe issue?
I tried to make peace with you and you just ran through that and kept insulting me...speaks volumes... F off!!!
You have an exorbitant opinion of your talents in the ‘firing up’ department.
I am no political expert...but are people not fired up?
It got sidetracked but I want to make sure that 1. people realize that the opposition is fired up by and large because of the supreme courts decision on abortion and 2. that we have a fight on our hands and cannot take this election for granted...simple as that...I didn’t expect to debate the whole anti-abortion lobby on here but it happened
Appeasing TDS is one option.
I choose not to exercise that option..
Enjoy Joe’s speech against Trumpism and MAGA.
And the issue is Boogeyman that slavery took away people’s freedom and many young women see abortion as a right that has been taken away...whether you agree with it or not...we can no longer argue that the left are the authoritarian ones as our side has “taken away (or sent to the states)” a right they took for granted.
Congrats, you can have the last word! I shutter to think that you go on other sites and try to defend our side.
hey why stop at banning some books you may not like...lets ban the bible, anything written about various disease and their cures or maybe copies of the Constitution ‘cause some parts might hurt your feelings or some such thing.
If we let a small minority tell us what to read, watch or even discuss then exactly how are we not in a dictatorship style government??
If you are so concerned about certain books then make sure they are in the adult section of a library where adults can check them out if they want their kids to read them. Otherwise keep your censorship to yourself and your household.
Fair enough oldie!!!???
Certainly not by you, just judging by this thread.
(You still haven’t answered why you consider the Tenth Amendment a mere ‘technicality’.)
You won’t get it, I’m not wasting the energy on you. Keep screwing up elections for us bud! Maybe when the Dems have 100 seats in the senate and 435 house members and 50 governorships you can look around and ask yourself what happened.
“And the issue is Boogeyman that slavery took away people’s freedom and many young women see abortion as a right that has been taken away...”
Certainly, and for that reason they will brook no compromise on the issue. But you also must look at the other side, in which people of moral character view this issue as no different that allowing legalization of slavery, or legalization of murder, and therefore they will brook no compromise either. When a political (really a moral) issue exists of that nature, where no compromise can be reached by either side, then this issue must be resolved by complete and total defeat of one side or the other. Which is why it cannot be ignored, wished away, postponed, etc. It imposes itself on society until that resolution is achieved, because it spurs the creation of factions that are mortally opposed to each other; factions that will not cooperate on any other matters of vital interest to society, except perhaps in times of extreme emergency like a war. Those factions will exist, they will be at each others’ throats, they will escalate the conflict, destabilize the society, and that will continue until the issue is resolved, one way or the other.
“we can no longer argue that the left are the authoritarian ones as our side has “taken away (or sent to the states)” a right they took for granted.”
Certainly we can argue that, because not all of us simply accept the leftist view on the matter as you have. There exist no “right to abortion”, neither in the Constitution, or in our traditions, or in the theory of natural law upon which our whole notion of rights is predicated. This illusory “right” is the invention of the modern left’s imagination. You may accept it, but nobody else is compelled to do so.
But you can tell your grandchildren about that very brief period when we sent abortion back to the states before the 9-0 lib supreme court re-instated Roe! wowee!!!!!!!!!
Let me ask you a question. If the life of the mother is at risk...should the woman still be forced to birth the child? If the woman was a victim of raped...same question. If the pregnancy is the result of incest...same question.
Let me ask you a question. If the life of the mother is at risk...should the woman still be forced to birth the child? If the woman was a victim of raped...same question. If the pregnancy is the result of incest...same question.
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