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Massachusetts, Washington State Adopt California’s 2035 Ban on Gas Powered Vehicles
California Globe ^ | August 27, 2022 | Evan Symon

Posted on 08/27/2022 6:17:52 AM PDT by artichokegrower

Both Massachusetts and Washington state leaders announced on Friday that they would be adopting California’s new ban on the sale of gas powered vehicles by 2035, beginning a shift that may encompass more states in the coming months.

(Excerpt) Read more at californiaglobe.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: California; US: Massachusetts; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: automotive; california; ecoterrorism; ecoterrorists; elonmusk; globalwarminghoax; greennewdeal; massachusetts; tesla; washington
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To: artichokegrower

And yet there is a shortage on CO2. How do they reconcile that?


61 posted on 08/27/2022 7:57:27 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (DJT24)
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To: artichokegrower

Think Havana, Cuba, with streets full of pre-1959 cars held together with bubble gum and bailing wire - that’s where these states are headed if they actually enforce this idiocy. Want to be able to afford a house in California? Learn auto repair and include an auto parts distributorship in your employment tool box.


62 posted on 08/27/2022 8:00:48 AM PDT by Stosh
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This is a critical milestone in our climate fight. Washington
set in law a goal for all new car sales to be zero emissions
by 2030 and we’re ready to adopt California’s regs by end
of this year.

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No pooting, talking, coughing. Not sure about breathing
as it isn’t mentioned.


63 posted on 08/27/2022 8:02:36 AM PDT by deport
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To: artichokegrower

Do these idiots realize air moves and doesn’t stay in their State ,LOL


64 posted on 08/27/2022 8:04:13 AM PDT by butlerweave
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To: FLT-bird
We have LOTS of oil and gas and coal we can extract even with current technology

Prudhoe Bay field was discovered in 68. The biggest strike in North America. Started pumping 10 years after that. Hit peak production 10 years after opening. Today it produces 20% of it's peak. That's 50 years. The growth in GDP since 68 had been staggering. Imagine that kind of growth for another 50 years. How many Prudhoe Bays will you have to find to keep up with that?

65 posted on 08/27/2022 8:08:52 AM PDT by Poison Pill
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To: Alter Kaker

We have issues with parking. Parking is not enforced because it is cost prohibitive. It will cost money to install and maintain chargers. In other words cost prohibitive.

HOA dues are high enough as it is. People complain about the fees. The HOA spends lots of money to maintain the property.


66 posted on 08/27/2022 8:13:58 AM PDT by moviefan8 (The proper function of man is to live, not to exist. - M in No Time To Die (2021)c)
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To: MrRelevant

The power grid in those states will not survive. Some entrepreneur will start raising horses and another will build horse drawn carriages and wagons for the opening market.


67 posted on 08/27/2022 8:16:58 AM PDT by arthurus ( covfefe lh)
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To: PIF

Thank goodness it doesn’t include the sale of private jets.


68 posted on 08/27/2022 8:26:44 AM PDT by Tommy Revolts
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To: Poison Pill

Do you have any idea how much oil and shale gas is in the US? Most of it is recoverable even with current technology. The US also has vast amounts of coal.


69 posted on 08/27/2022 8:35:41 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: Poison Pill

You don’t take into account new oil field discoveries, new methods of extraction and rising efficiency of use.

Production will always meet or exceed demand if government stays out of the way.

The only reason that the price of oil products is high is government interference in the market place.


70 posted on 08/27/2022 8:39:13 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spiritI)
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To: Poison Pill

“Prudhoe Bay field was discovered in 68. The biggest strike in North America. Started pumping 10 years after that. Hit peak production 10 years after opening. Today it produces 20% of it’s peak. That’s 50 years. The growth in GDP since 68 had been staggering. Imagine that kind of growth for another 50 years. How many Prudhoe Bays will you have to find to keep up with that?”

Peak Oil is that you. I thought you retired some years ago.


71 posted on 08/27/2022 8:39:26 AM PDT by nomorelurker
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To: artichokegrower

California politicians are cowards. They just had bureaucrats at the California Air Resources Board make the rule.


72 posted on 08/27/2022 8:47:41 AM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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To: Poison Pill

I don’t denigrate the importance of oil, not in the past , the present or the future. But there are other, very significant, sources of energy, and many ways to cut back on oil consumption. For example, no power should be produced using oil, save for that produced by emergency or remotely-located generators. Use nukes, coal, natural gas and even some renewable sources for that (the latter only as a supplement, as it is not dependable and is incredibly inefficient in most circumstances). As for reducing oil consumption, increased vehicle and housing efficiency, combined with more business being done via Zoom, etc. instead of in-person will help.

WRT increased energy consumption as the world’s economy grows:

1) It isn’t going to grow much in the next decade, as we’re in or on the precipice of another Great Depression for the same reason as we got into the first one - too much debt to possibly repay. We’re also increasingly likely to have the historically-normal companion of economic hardship, war, and have it on a global scale. This will likely stop population growth, and possibly reduce it by a fair amount. Neither is a good thing at all, of course, but oil consumption will NOT be growing at previous rates over the next several years, if not longer.

2) Even if it does (or does so later), we can and should be diversifying into other forms of both energy supply and consumption. More nukes, for example - especially those powered by thorium, which is both more abundant than uranium and cannot be used to produce nuclear weapons. A crash program to develop fusion (we are legitimately fairly close to commercial viability), as well as far more efficient solar power generation, batteries and capacitors. Yes, oil is a limited resource, and even if there were no real physical limits to its supply, the cheap oil of the past is basically gone - but we have options, many if them.


73 posted on 08/27/2022 8:51:13 AM PDT by Ancesthntr (“The right to buy weapons is the right to be free.” ― A.E. Van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: Pontiac
You don’t take into account new oil field discoveries,

Well OK. The biggest oil field ever found in N America was Prudhoe Bay. That was over 50 years ago. Have we found another one. To grow at the rate we have been on, for the next 50 years we will need 7 more Prudhoe Bays. Where are they?

74 posted on 08/27/2022 9:07:21 AM PDT by Poison Pill
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To: Pontiac

Second law of
ThemoDynamics.
.
Everything is winding down.
.
Cheap oil is vastly Superior to Electricity.


75 posted on 08/27/2022 9:11:01 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (We Are JONAH)
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To: Poison Pill

Absurd


76 posted on 08/27/2022 9:18:38 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (We Are JONAH)
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To: Poison Pill

Democrats shouldn’t be
Demonized,,
But put in Stocks,
Tree Hugger!


77 posted on 08/27/2022 9:27:35 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (We Are JONAH)
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To: PIF

all gas powered engines for lawn mowers, chain saws, trimmers, generators, leaf blowers. sale has been banned as of 2024 in calif, how do you use a electric chain saw in the woods..


78 posted on 08/27/2022 1:03:38 PM PDT by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!you)
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To: Poison Pill

California has more oil then can be extracted.


79 posted on 08/27/2022 1:18:12 PM PDT by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!you)
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To: artichokegrower

Any blue states that implement this will become ghost towns in short order. Maybe they emigrate to canada.


80 posted on 08/27/2022 1:25:22 PM PDT by Tom Tetroxide
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