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Aleksandr Dugin Calls for Russia to Punish Ukraine for Daria Dugina’s Death
MSN-NY Times ^ | August 22, 2022 | Anton Troianovski -

Posted on 08/22/2022 7:57:58 AM PDT by dennisw

The outspoken Russian ultranationalist Aleksandr Dugin called on Monday for revenge against Ukraine and for Russia to push on in its invasion, in his first comments since a car bombing killed his daughter.

The Russian authorities on Monday blamed Ukraine for organizing the killing of his daughter, Daria Dugina, on Saturday on a highway in an affluent district outside of Moscow.

Mr. Dugin, who Russian media reports said was driving in a separate car behind his daughter when the blast went off, said she had been “brutally killed by an explosion in front of my eyes.”

He said the attack was an “act of terror” that had been “carried out by the Nazi Ukrainian regime,” repeating the Kremlin’s false description of Ukraine as a Nazi state.

“Our hearts yearn for more than just revenge or retribution,” Mr. Dugin said in a statement issued by an associate, the ultraconservative business magnate Konstantin Malofeev. “We only need our victory. My daughter laid her maiden life on her altar. So win, please!”

Mr. Dugin has often been described as “Putin’s brain,” although the relationship between the two men is opaque and, some analysts say, overstated. But Mr. Dugin has been one of the most visible proponents of the idea of an imperial Russia at the helm of a “Eurasian” civilization locked in an existential conflict in the West.

A leading advocate for the conquest of Ukraine, he recently has urged the Kremlin to escalate its assault.

Ms. Dugina espoused many of her father’s views, appearing regularly on state television to promote the idea of an imperialist and aggressive Russia. Although she was not well known in Russia beyond ultranationalist and imperialist circles, she also played a role in building ties between Russia and Europe’s far right.

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To: Mr. K

I’ve concluded he must be drunk or on drugs.....


21 posted on 08/22/2022 8:47:54 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin ( (Natural born citizens are born here of citizen parents)(Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: agere_contra

Russian propaganda - very unlikely and far too convenient and explanation.


22 posted on 08/22/2022 8:50:42 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: ansel12

It was quick, but that really isn’t so weird. The attack would be very hard to detect beforehand. This has been proven time and again here in America.
But in the aftermath that evening, you start reviewing the cameras, start analyzing cell phone movements, see the Mini Cooper. Go to the address and discover that it’s the victims same building. You find the apartment is empty. You get rental information from the property manager.
10 hours later, as the sun rises, that Mini crosses the border into Estonia with different plates.

Not that implausible. Not at all. That doesn’t mean it’s true, but it is well within the realm of possible.

And an Azov Uke woman, with a teen daughter in tow would easily be able to live in Moscow where there are tens of thousands of Uke refugees and people with Uke connections from decades back.

None of us can really know for sure. But as I said elsewhere, I sure wouldn’t stand inside a frag pattern of Zelinsky or smoke a cig on the front steps of SBU headquarters for the foreseeable future.


23 posted on 08/22/2022 8:54:53 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: DesertRhino

No, this instant investigation and conclusion which fits Russia’s war aims, is an overly nice little package.


24 posted on 08/22/2022 9:04:25 AM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: ansel12

A nice little package that fits their SOPs for many decades. Amazing how the “useful idiots” lap it right up as gospel truth.


25 posted on 08/22/2022 9:11:55 AM PDT by datura (Eventually, the Lord and the Truth will win.)
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To: dennisw

Dugin is a neobolshie

Lots of enemies

Not sure how he gets labeled far right when he founded this nationalist Bolshevik party

And he hates the church

He has some very strange views that most folks wouldn’t make public

A quack


26 posted on 08/22/2022 9:13:23 AM PDT by wardaddy (Lawyers guns and money……I lived it…. Now I'm old…. I have wonderful children)
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To: ansel12

The nice package is the flood of articles in the Mockingbird press that it was a power struggle in the Kremlin or an angry Russian. That fit’s the CIA and Brit intel war aims.

It really could have been about that fast. The woman was not worried about covering her tracks because she had a solid exfiltration plan. She only needed to remain hidden long enough to conduct the op and have 10 hours afterwards. Finding her identity would be fast.

You are jaded by FBI investigations that take months and years. They take that long because while things are “under investigation”, facts can remain secret with gag orders.

Think about mass shootings etc in America. Investigators know the bad guy’s identity nearly immediately. Within the hour people are at his residence and know much more.
But it remains concealed an inordinate amount of time for them to scrub social media, prep their propaganda message, etc.


27 posted on 08/22/2022 9:16:12 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: datura

Amazing also to watch useful idiots lap up anything coming from Brit and US intelligence and the US Government. They never seem to notice they are full lockstep with MSNBC, CNN, CBS, the NYT, etc.

You are like when the US military switched sides in Libya ad Syria and started flying top cover for black flag Al Qeida.

You’ve joined in with DC and London.


28 posted on 08/22/2022 9:19:51 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: DesertRhino

The flood of articles is about speculation, there are a number of possibilities.

Russia instantly issued its claim and you instantly took it to heart.


29 posted on 08/22/2022 9:20:32 AM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: ansel12

Occam’s razor. Was it Putin killing his friend’s daughter in some Byzantine plot? Or Ukes killing someone they clearly want dead and celebrate it?

But you go with the British newspapers parroting MI6 and MI5.

Doesn’t affect me either way except to be bummed that conservatives like you are so easily manipulated by our intel people and MSM.


30 posted on 08/22/2022 9:24:02 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: DesertRhino

They said march, you marched, personally I think it is too early to be drawing conclusions on this death.


31 posted on 08/22/2022 9:26:29 AM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: agere_contra

Haha!

Is that like the Solly assassination patsy set-up?

How convenient. A car registered with the right number plate, listed under the family name of someone who needed to be incognito, and who has a pro-Ukraine message in the ad in the top left corner.

Does it have “Signature unreadable” or anything similar on it?

https://twitter.com/sumlenny/status/1518624438358626304

Look. If this is true, then it really is the most epic of fails of the Russian security services.

She spent, what, almost A MONTH in the same apartment block as Dugina, building a bomb, then snuck it into a highly secure compound and attacked it to a car that only the Dugin family, a security officer or a psychic would’ve known would be driven that night?

Is she one of those supersoldiers with an invisibility cloak?


32 posted on 08/22/2022 9:30:26 AM PDT by MalPearce
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To: DesertRhino

Your posts on this thread have been impressive. You’ve laid out a perfectly coherent, reasonable timeline of events and have included appropriate caveats

MI6 got their crazy, dehumanising narrative of a Dugin hit on his own daughter (yikes) out much more quickly than ten hours. Some have have lapped that filth right up - but not you.

Keep on being a voice of sanity.


33 posted on 08/22/2022 9:44:20 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: ansel12

DC, intel and Brit media says march and you march. It’s too early to know for sure, but it’s not too early to notice what makes the most sense.
Ukes are thrilled about it and celebrated it. But you’re right, it’s probably 3D chess with Putin allies killing his friend’s daughter just so they can frame the salt of the earth Ukrainians who would never do such a thing.

You’re gullible and it seems you are impervious to the slightest amount of reason.

When you’re our west, and hear hoofbeats coming up behind you, you shouldn’t be thinking “zebras”.

It was Ukes. The only real question is whether this was an Azov in-house operation, or if the Uke government was involved.


34 posted on 08/22/2022 10:11:41 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: DesertRhino

don’t go being sensible you’ll offend the neocons.


35 posted on 08/22/2022 10:24:31 AM PDT by Manuel OKelley
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To: DesertRhino

You have a habit of putting a lot of personal insults into your posts.


36 posted on 08/22/2022 10:26:10 AM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: Bob434

“Punish Dennis Rodman instead- he’ll be there soon.”

LOL.

A prayer...Lord please protect the Worm from harm, while he gets that person out of Lubyanka prison.

Bring the Worm back so he can see his pal, Kim again.

5.56mm


37 posted on 08/22/2022 10:30:52 AM PDT by M Kehoe (Quid Pro Joe and the Ho got to go.)
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To: dennisw

“Academic” would have also been used in Nazi Germany to describe Joseph Goebbels who had a Ph.D. in Philology.


38 posted on 08/22/2022 10:47:00 AM PDT by Ebenezer ("Be strong and of good courage.")
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To: dennisw
Philosophically, Dugin is an advocate of the neo-gnostic, neo-pagan "Traditionalist School" co-founded by Rene Guenon, Ananda Coomaraswamy and Frithjof Schuon.

Coomaraswamy had ties to Aleister Crowley while Crowley was living in New York City in 1916.

https://traditionalistblog.blogspot.com/2007/12/coomaraswamy-and-crowley.html

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Dugin is a particularly avid disciple of Traditionalist Julius Evola who was a Nazi sympathizer and advocare of "pagan imperialism" which forms the underpinnings for Dugin's "Eurasian agenda" whose motto is "from Dublin to Vladivostock."

Like Evola, Dugin has also been involved with magic and the occult.

IMHO, Putin might do well to focus on the neo-nazis in his own back yard instead of embarking on fishing expeditions for "Nazis" in Ukraine and elsewhere.

39 posted on 08/22/2022 11:10:53 AM PDT by Sons of Union Vets (Mine Eyes Have Seen the Glory!)
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To: DesertRhino

YOU, post #23 -

“None of us can really know for sure”

YOU, post #34 -

“It was Ukes”

do you always talk out of both sides of your mouth? LOL


40 posted on 08/22/2022 11:13:10 AM PDT by canuck_conservative
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