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State GOP approves resolution calling for closed primaries in Alabama
sports.yahoo.com ^ | 8/13/22 | Jemma Stephenson

Posted on 08/14/2022 7:51:16 AM PDT by cotton1706

The governing body of the ALGOP voted Saturday to approve a resolution calling for the Legislature to require voters to register with a party before they can vote in that party's primary.

The resolution passed with 81% of the vote.

The vote after an eventful primary season, which saw close calls and ballot errors. The vote does not bind the House and Senate, and the party left the details to the Legislature to figure out.

"The direct implementation would be left to the legislation," said John Wahl, chairman of the Alabama Republican Party.

Alabama is one of 15 states with an "open primary," which allows supporters of one party to vote in another party's primary. Crossover voting here hasn't been quantified because voters do not declare a party affiliation when they register.

The Republicans have won supermajorities in the state Legislature since 2010 and in every statewide elected office.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections; US: Alabama
KEYWORDS: elections
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To: SmokingJoe

Changing party presence is not like changing kidneys.

In your scenario you give power to the GOP professionals and then Democrats change registration and still vote in the primary.

Congratulations. Your screwed even more efficiently.


41 posted on 08/14/2022 12:35:46 PM PDT by vg0va3
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To: madison10

Closing the primary does not stop that. Even in open primaries people have to choose a Democrat or Republican ballot. What does making someone choose a weeks earlier have to do with stopping that from happening?


42 posted on 08/14/2022 12:37:45 PM PDT by vg0va3
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To: vg0va3
Your post just doesn't make any sense.
If open primaries didn't make any difference, you and your Dem and RINO pals wouldn't be fighting so hard for open primaries.
Closed primaries almost always guarantee a conservative candidate wins the primaries.
Main reason the anti Trump RINOS are getting clobbered but good in the GOP primaries this year.
43 posted on 08/14/2022 12:52:27 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: cotton1706

Wanna double the chances of a patriot winning the seat?

Find and run MAGA red Donald Dem DINOs in ‘Rat races.

Until then we’re fighting half a battle.


44 posted on 08/14/2022 12:57:42 PM PDT by mewzilla (We need to repeal RCV wherever it's in use and go back to dumb voting machines.)
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To: cotton1706

I think a closed primary is a must but the GOP need to go a step further. If a voter registers as a rep they have to remain a rep until after the general. Same thing for a dem. Non of this jumping back & forth during the primaries and general.


45 posted on 08/14/2022 1:02:43 PM PDT by GrandmaPatriot
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To: GrandmaPatriot

“””I think a closed primary is a must but the GOP need to go a step further. If a voter registers as a rep they have to remain a rep until after the general. Same thing for a dem. Non of this jumping back & forth during the primaries and general.”””


None of this jumping back & forth during the primaries and general.

You should not be concerned about this. In the general election you can vote for a Dem, Rep, or independent whatever you are registered.


46 posted on 08/14/2022 1:12:56 PM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: vg0va3
So you can't provide any help… thanks. You just have this “gut” feeling. But you keep getting such wonderful results from the GOP.

Its not my business to provide “help” to determined Dem trolls who demand open GOP primaries so they can vote for RINOS.
Its plain common sense that if you exclude far left Democrats from a GOP primary, you are going to get more conservatives electd.
If you can't see that, you are more screwed up than I thought.

How many races has Mitch screwed up for you?

Mitch?
Don't make me laugh.
How many Mitch backed candidates have won this year in head to heads with Trump backed candidates in this year's primaries so far?
Mitch has about as much influence in Republican primaries as a mouse.
How did Mitch do in the Arizona and Michigan primaries in the last 2 weeks when President Trump backed candidates won everything?

The problem with the GOP is not open primaries.

The open primaries are one of the biggest problame facing the GOP.
Its stupid to invite far left Democrats to come and vote in GOP primaries because they will vote for RINOS and leftists who can't win or who will vote with Dems if they win by mistake.

The problem is with the people running the GOP.

Most of the RINOS who used to run thr Republican Party in states have been removed.

My mother was abused by my step father when I was a kid

Too bad for you.

That is what the GOP is doing to their voters.

Nope.
The GOP conservative voting base has delivered a massive clobbering to the RINOS in this year's primaries.
The next target is RINO Liz Cheney who will get thoroughly beaten on Tuesday.
Sorry for you.

47 posted on 08/14/2022 1:15:09 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: SmokingJoe

“””The next target is RINO Liz Cheney who will get thoroughly beaten on Tuesday.””””


And if by the slimmest of chance Liz Cheney gets more votes than Harriet Haggeman, it will only be because Wyoming is an OPEN PRIMARY state and the DEMOCRATS voted for Liz.

Frankly, I am surprised by the number of long time FReepers who do not understand how bad Open Primaries are.

Is FR infiltrated with trolls who have managed to get sign-on dates that are many years old?


48 posted on 08/14/2022 1:20:37 PM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: cotton1706

Open primaries must be ended. They are ridiculous on their face. A political party is a club not a government entity. I know the Supreme Court oked open primaries but they were totally wrong in doing so.
They are a remnant of the days when Democrat/communists totally controlled states in the South and had “open” primaries specifically to ruin any chance the Republicans might have to win.


49 posted on 08/14/2022 1:33:46 PM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Freedom is never free. It must be won rewon and jealously guarded.)
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To: cotton1706

Great news... We needclosef primaries in ALL STATES.


50 posted on 08/14/2022 5:44:38 PM PDT by Deplorable American1776 (Defund the FBI, the American Stasi..)
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To: bankwalker; Lower Deck

I believe he mistyped his reply. I don’t believe he is a Democrat.


51 posted on 08/14/2022 6:15:53 PM PDT by Deplorable American1776 (Defund the FBI, the American Stasi..)
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To: SmokingJoe

It is apparent that all you have to offer is insults. I have better things to do. God Bless.


52 posted on 08/14/2022 6:57:00 PM PDT by vg0va3
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To: Lower Deck

For the same reason you have locks on your doors.


53 posted on 08/14/2022 8:34:53 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (America Owes Anita Bryant An Enormous Apology)
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To: SmokingJoe

I guess those of us who aren’t registered Republican will just have to live with a bunch of milquetoast RINOs in the general. The whole system needs to be brought down. Voting, hah. The Founders were suspicious of democracy, G. Washington warned about parties in his Farewell Address, and stuff like this is why.


54 posted on 08/15/2022 7:43:38 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Hold on, y'all, 2022 is going to be a ride you won't soon forget!)
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To: Lower Deck

You phrased the question as if you didn’t understand the difference between open and closed primaries as in “why there would ever be a closed primary”.


55 posted on 08/15/2022 7:58:40 AM PDT by wita (Under oath since 1966 in defense of Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness)
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To: backwoods-engineer
I guess those of us who aren't registered Republican will just have to live with a bunch of milquetoast RINOs in the general.

Nope.
You could always register as a Republican and vote for conservatives in the primaries if you want to.
Not to mention most of the RINOS got clobbered in this year's GOP primaries, with Liz Cheney all set to get annihilated tomorrow too.

56 posted on 08/15/2022 8:25:12 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: Lower Deck

The racist Alabama Democratic party is the answer. Alabama was a one-party Democratic state that excluded blacks from meaningful participation. How? Only white people could belong to the Democratic party. They would a hold a closed primary, conducted and paid for by the State, among its members only, and select a candidate. This person would then be the only white candidate on the ballot and would win in the general election, where the few blacks who had managed to register, could vote, but would be shut out.

Part of the Civil Rights/Voting Rights acts and de-segregation court cases, required that primaries (and actually party membership) be open to all. Technically, if you vote in an a party primary, you are declaring that day you want to be a member of that party, and help select its candidates. I remember the voting documents used to actually say that.

In Alabama, you do not declare a party membership in advance of an election. In a “closed” system, you would have to declare a certain party a certain number of days in advance of the election, and there would be a registration book of just those declarers on election day. Its all historic accident, not design anymore. The USDOJ could stop to sue such a change under Voting Rights Act, but with States no longer needing DOJ pre-approval for election changes anymore, it would likely happen.


57 posted on 08/15/2022 9:51:05 AM PDT by BamaBG
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

True, but if you voted GOP in the primary, you should only be able to vote GOP in the general. Same with the dems. But that won’t happen and it would probably be a bad thing anyway so never mind.


58 posted on 08/17/2022 5:48:24 AM PDT by GrandmaPatriot
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To: vg0va3

Estimates for the crossover votes in GA were 4% to 10%. Hardly negligible.


59 posted on 08/17/2022 5:56:19 AM PDT by LilFarmer
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To: Lower Deck

Is today Opposite Day?


60 posted on 08/17/2022 6:03:23 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Sometimes when you get to where you're supposed to be, it's too soon.)
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