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A Sure-Fire Dead End to Achieve Climate Goals: Electrifying the U.S. Postal Service Fleet
townhall.com ^ | 8/5/2022 | Earl Baker

Posted on 08/06/2022 10:38:00 AM PDT by rktman

Congress undoubtedly has a lot of options to consider when it comes expanding the usage of renewable energy. The challenges facing lawmakers involve a variety of sizable risks and pitfalls, in what amounts to a complex chess game. But in order to properly succeed in this game, Congress and the Administration should never consider sacrificing key government agencies as pawns.

Unfortunately, it appears that the United States Postal Service (USPS) is at risk of being “captured” in the proverbial chess game that is Washington politics. In what would amount to a serious strategic error, some Capitol Hill leaders are now considering an illogical spending package for new USPS vehicles in their pursuit to greenify everything.

Earlier this year, the Postal Service reiterated its vehicle preferences for gasoline-powered delivery trucks over electric vehicles. If you are like me, you might be suspicious of a government agency that is resisting the change to new technology. But this decision is consistent with a supplier agreement the USPS reached in 2020 and reflects the agency’s aims for cost-effectiveness, performance reliability, alignment with existing infrastructure, and other practical matters.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: climageddon; postoffice; usps
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To: cymbeline

Batteries weight about 1000 pounds.


41 posted on 08/06/2022 11:58:39 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: rktman

“Earlier this year, the Postal Service reiterated its vehicle preferences for gasoline-powered delivery trucks over electric vehicles. “

-——————July 21, 2022————————

The US Postal Service said Wednesday that at least 40% of its new delivery vehicles will be electric, up from the 10% it had once committed to, following a backlash from the Biden administration and others.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/20/business/usps-electric-vehicle/index.html


42 posted on 08/06/2022 11:59:30 AM PDT by TexasGator (ice )
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To: TangoLimaSierra

Just how many of those ICE “spontaneously combusted” vs. EVs?

Bet most of the ICE were the direct result of crashes.

Sorry. No sale.


43 posted on 08/06/2022 11:59:33 AM PDT by RedMonqey
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To: Jeff Chandler

“They should build swappable battery packs.”

Nope. The average postal route requires 24 miles of driving and nearly all of them are less than 70 miles.”


44 posted on 08/06/2022 12:04:45 PM PDT by TexasGator (ice )
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To: Alberta's Child
One thing keeping more commercial interests from adopting them in large numbers is that they still haven’t managed to come up with a solid estimate of the depreciated value of an EV over time.
Or, perhaps they have come to a reliable determination - it's dismal.
45 posted on 08/06/2022 12:07:04 PM PDT by citizen (Thieves of private property pass their lives in chains; thieves of public prop. in riches and luxury)
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To: sloanrb

As per your article, the youngest trucks in in the fleet being 26years old, it’s no wonder there’s an occasion fire due to the components in the truck breaking down.

Really doubt any of the EV fleet vehicles will last a fraction of that time.


46 posted on 08/06/2022 12:12:36 PM PDT by RedMonqey
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To: rktman

Already did. It is called email. Save the plant. Shut down the USPS.


47 posted on 08/06/2022 12:13:37 PM PDT by cp124 (80% of everything is fake or a lie.)
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To: carriage_hill
"Thy’d need a small crane to change packs."

Ample has installed five battery-swap stations in the California Bay Area for UBER drivers.


48 posted on 08/06/2022 12:15:42 PM PDT by TexasGator (ice )
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To: rktman

I deliver mail. In my little post office with 8 routes and an enclosed dock that can only handle a box truck, there’s not enough room for charging stations and llvs. The post office would have to build or rent another building just to have a parking lot big enough for the chargers.


49 posted on 08/06/2022 12:15:51 PM PDT by lucky american (Progressives are attacking our rights and y'all will sit there and take it.)
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To: carriage_hill

They could 19v batteries like on a Robi drill. The charge could get you to the end of the driveway, if you lived on a hill.


50 posted on 08/06/2022 12:16:21 PM PDT by cp124 (80% of everything is fake or a lie.)
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To: RedMonqey
Just how many of those ICE “spontaneously combusted” vs. EVs?

Yeah, no. Bet it's still more. But you won't research it, because you have the answer you like.

51 posted on 08/06/2022 12:18:00 PM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (⭐⭐Public hangings will wake 'em up.⭐⭐)
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To: citizen
It’s effectively $0 right now because the technology is so new that nobody has enough information to estimate how much they’d be willing to pay for an EV delivery van that is 5+ years old.

One problem with new technology is that it tends to become functionally obsolete before it reaches the end of its physical life. That’s why large companies end up with piles and piles of still usable computers that they can’t even donate to schools and non-profit groups anymore.

Similarly, the first generation of Model T cars were probably worthless until they became antiques.

52 posted on 08/06/2022 12:22:00 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("It's midnight in Manhattan. This is no time to get cute; it's a mad dog's promenade.")
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To: All

hybrid? turbo?

turbo hybrid?


53 posted on 08/06/2022 12:23:45 PM PDT by SteveH (.all)
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To: RedMonqey
Really doubt any of the EV fleet vehicles will last a fraction of that time. [26 years and older]
That's a really good point. But, hey, the USPS won't have to pay the cost to replace EVs with a short operating life.

The rapid increases in the cost of postage stamps was a prime reason why they stopped labeling the cost of each postage stamp years ago and began calling them forever stamps. AND Congress has unlimited cash or so they seem to think.

54 posted on 08/06/2022 12:25:14 PM PDT by citizen (Thieves of private property pass their lives in chains; thieves of public prop. in riches and luxury)
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To: rktman

A lot of people think the US is too big to fail; we can keep on making stupid, dogmatic decisions and everything will be ok.


55 posted on 08/06/2022 12:27:24 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie ( )
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To: rktman

Our rural post office in this deep red county is as blue as you can get . They throw your packages and letters in the ditch when they see you have a Trump sign or flag in your yard . Tatoos and piercings and little pink vagina hats while they deliver the mail . Burn it to the ground and salt the earth . I get all my bills electronically now because the bastards would wait until the bill was late before sticking it in my mailbox . Many of the carriers refuse to come up my driveway because they aren’t allowed to back the truck up . Yes ! You read that right . No reversing the old mail truck .


56 posted on 08/06/2022 12:34:47 PM PDT by David Moser
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To: rktman

57 posted on 08/06/2022 12:37:08 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: citizen

My dad was a rural route carrier but he work d his way up from a postal clerk.

He could tell you endl ss ways of how the post offices like the military(he was in the army)could waste more money on really dumb ideas from people who never worked up the mail in their life.

And heaven forbid they asked for suggestions from those who did.


58 posted on 08/06/2022 12:39:23 PM PDT by RedMonqey
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To: Alberta's Child
Yep...we tried to sell and then give away an outdated mainframe in the 90s. No takers.

I'm not arguing, per se, but they have to get the usable worth of an EV with a spent or even a used battery pack to a point where the cost of battery replacement or refurbishment doesn't make the sale a non-starter.

I have a cousin with an older hybrid Prius be bought used. He loved it until the battery pack had to be replaced with a refurbished one for $1700. In a year or so, it failed, too. $1700 more. He dealt with a firm in Atlanta (200 miles away) for the purchase & replacements, with them coming to his home. This replacement pack also failed in just hours and the company swapped it out at no-charge but meanwhile the car was dead.

He now pays the premium for an insurance policy the company provides to handle any future failures. Something in the 30 dollars per month range I think he said. He still seems to love his old Prius. He bids on providing on site by-the-job electronic work (cash register and modem installs and such) so he usually drives several hundred miles a week.

59 posted on 08/06/2022 12:44:54 PM PDT by citizen (Thieves of private property pass their lives in chains; thieves of public prop. in riches and luxury)
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To: ridesthemiles

“Do YOU live rural???????????”

I do now.


60 posted on 08/06/2022 12:45:26 PM PDT by MercyFlush (☭☭☭ Soviet Russia must be destroyed. ☭☭☭)
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