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From Tomorrow, All New Vehicles in the EU Will Have Surveillance Black Boxes
Summit News ^ | 5 July, 2022 | Paul Joseph Watson

Posted on 07/05/2022 6:55:46 AM PDT by george76

Greasing the skids for speed-limiting technology..

From tomorrow, all new vehicles sold in the EU will have mandatory black boxes fitted that record technical data and will be accessible by authorities, greasing the skids for surveillance-powered speed limiting technology.

While for the time being, drivers can opt-out of using the feature, privacy advocates fear the technology will become mandatory once it is properly rolled out.

Back in 2019, the European Transport Safety Council (ETSC) announced that July 6 would mark the day when all car manufacturers would be forced to fit new models with a system that keeps track of technical data.

The data recorded will include “the vehicle’s speed, braking, steering wheel angle, its incline on the road, and whether the vehicle’s various safety systems were in operation, starting with seatbelts.”

Although insurance companies won’t have immediate access to the data, it will be available to law enforcement.

Authorities claim the data will be “anonymized,” meaning the information can’t be used to identify the owner of the vehicle, although only the incredibly naive would plausibly believe that.

Such systems are expected to eventually include speed-limiting technology.

As Reclaim the Net’s Didi Rankovic explains, the most common method of speed limiting technology is Intelligent Speed Assistant (ISA).

“ISA works using GPS data alone, cameras for traffic sign recognition fitted to the front of the car, or a combination of the two. A speed limiter affects the engine power and in that way decreases speed.”

“Like the name suggests, speed limiters are designed to prevent drivers from exceeding certain speed limits, and prompt them via audio, visual, and haptic warnings until they “obey” and slow down.”

For decades, governments have been pushing for all cars to be fitted with black boxes that track location data.

The ultimate dystopian scenario involves giving police the power to utilize similar technology to completely disable the functioning of a vehicle if the driver is deemed to have committed an infraction.

This doesn’t need to be a criminal offense, if the pursuit of social credit score schemes continues to become more invasive, it would eventually be used as a form of punishment for everything from unpaid utility bills to offensive comments posted on social media.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Germany; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: automotive; black; blackboxes; boxes; europe
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To: TexasGurl24

You wouldn’t believe all the computers in Mrs rktman’s ‘07 Volvo. Maybe we should trade it on an EV. Nah. 😂


21 posted on 07/05/2022 7:36:43 AM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this? 😕)
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To: rktman

Also if you have a cellphone they can monitor that as well.


22 posted on 07/05/2022 7:38:15 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Spktyr

If ‘on star’ can unlock your car, it can also turn it off. 🤔😜


23 posted on 07/05/2022 7:39:01 AM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this? 😕)
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To: dfwgator

Faraday bag? 😁✌


24 posted on 07/05/2022 7:40:22 AM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this? 😕)
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To: george76

Gee, the wires to that box must have come loose when I went over a speed bump...


25 posted on 07/05/2022 7:54:23 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: GailA
Remember Carter’s 55 mph?

Carter was bad, among the worst, but Nixon was responsible for the double-nickel limit, not Carter.

26 posted on 07/05/2022 8:00:12 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (There are two kinds of people: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.)
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To: volunbeer

Is there an easy way to disconnect the GPS antenna?
Will the car complain endlessly if you do?
Is it legal?


27 posted on 07/05/2022 8:02:45 AM PDT by Doctor Congo
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To: george76

May of 2918 all cars come with black boxes in the US. Every button you press, your braking, speed et al are recorded. Police can now access your black box to prosecute you. Most of the time, when the news says another country has something, we already do.


28 posted on 07/05/2022 8:07:35 AM PDT by M_Continuum
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To: M_Continuum

*2018


29 posted on 07/05/2022 8:08:01 AM PDT by M_Continuum
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

The Germans aren’t going to like a speed limiter.


30 posted on 07/05/2022 8:14:58 AM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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To: Vigilanteman

“I brought a print-out of the device from the trip in question that proved that I did, indeed, stop. “

Wow! Interesting story. The black boxes in our cars just remember things, correct? They don’t communicate in real time with big brother, correct?


31 posted on 07/05/2022 8:15:24 AM PDT by cymbeline
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To: george76

I would never recommend a license plate frame with IR LEDs for your European car. Never.


32 posted on 07/05/2022 8:16:35 AM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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To: John Milner

Black Boxes Matter!


33 posted on 07/05/2022 8:56:53 AM PDT by xp38
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To: george76

I guess I’m keeping my 1998 K2500 and my 2001 Corolla. Just put a new engine in the K2500 so I’m good... except for the 14 mpg.


34 posted on 07/05/2022 8:59:46 AM PDT by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: rktman

I heard the same. My Father-in-Law was in a horrible accident a few years back. He was driving his F350 Platinum 4x4 Diesel truck on count road and an old timer ran the stop sign. My FIL t-boned him, and it killed the old timer, totaled the F350 and my FIL suffered a broken neck.

His insurance company obtained the black box from the F350 and the other car and found out the speeds of both at the time of impact. They used that against him to initially deny his claim, since both were speeding.


35 posted on 07/05/2022 9:02:27 AM PDT by shotgun
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To: volunbeer

See my post 35


36 posted on 07/05/2022 9:04:42 AM PDT by shotgun
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To: george76

This will be just as effective as “gun-free zone” laws. Criminals will continue having illegal vehicles that can speed, and citizens trying to escape crime or fire, or get to a hospital, will be victimized.


37 posted on 07/05/2022 9:17:27 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (“Government is the problem.” --Milton Friedman)
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To: rktman

The black boxes have been around for a while now. Several years ago a former student of mine was involved in a serious single-car wreck. Two girls and two guys speeding on a rural highway. She sustained life-changing injuries and I believe her friend was killed.

Of course the driver was charged. But as it turned out the charges against him were dropped. After the wreck the driver got out of the car, opened the back door, dragged his unconscious buddy out of the back and into the front seat, then got into the back seat and waited for the EMTs to arrive.

But the black box told the tale of the wreck, the driver’s door being opened, the back door being opened, the driver’s door being closed and the back door being closed. The right guy ended up going to prison. Don’t know how his friend felt about the attempted frame up.


38 posted on 07/05/2022 9:37:23 AM PDT by hanamizu
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To: Opinionated Blowhard
We bought a new Highlander and I was messing with the app and invoked a setting that reported to me every time my wife broke the speed limit. I undid that setting because she is a little to lead footed and I don't need the aggravating reports. Of course that only means I don't get them doesn't mean they don't still record them, in fact I am sure they do.

Many years ago the subject was debated in public and they declared they would only record a minute or two before a collision, insurance companies were demanding acmes to that data, wanna bet whether they get it or not?

39 posted on 07/05/2022 12:38:08 PM PDT by itsahoot (Many Republicans are secretly Democrats, no Democrats are secretly Republicans. Dan Bongino.)
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To: Vigilanteman
It isn't all bad.

Yes it is and you or I can't do a danged thing about it. Our phones do much more than they tell us too.

Well you could invest in a 60's muscle car or similar vintage auto I guess.

40 posted on 07/05/2022 12:42:22 PM PDT by itsahoot (Many Republicans are secretly Democrats, no Democrats are secretly Republicans. Dan Bongino.)
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