Biden officials privately doubt that Ukraine can win back all of its territory

CNN ^ | 6/28/22 | Natasha Bertrand

[JonPreston]

White House officials are losing confidence that Ukraine will ever be able to take back all of the land it has lost to Russia over the past four months of war, US officials told CNN, even with the heavier and more sophisticated weaponry the US and its allies plan to send.

Advisers to President Joe Biden have begun debating internally how and whether Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky should shift his definition of a Ukrainian “victory” – adjusting for the possibility that his country has shrunk irreversibly.

[Basket_of_Deplorables]

“NATO expansion started this war and that’s on Biden and his Neocons.”

The west (US) started this crapfest decades ago, when they didn’t disband NATO after the Soviet Union collapsed. Instead, they decided to expand.

Etc.

What would George Washington say?

[PGR88]

But in the end, the language policy of Ukraine is none of Russia's business.

Nor is it the business of the USA and NATO - but that didn't stop them.

Here's a picture of John McCain, in Kiev, on stage at the Maidan Square, 2 weeks after the "protests" started. He was there with Victoria Nuland, and Chris Murphy, along with the US Ambassador and various other members of the US foreign policy establishment. He appeared on stage with the leader of the "Right Sector" - a collection of nationalist and neo-nazi groups - whose members were the ones occupying and burning government buildings and fighting with police - the "muscle" for the coup that was then in progress. When the "right sector" finished their job in 2014, they disbanded - and went on to form the Azov Brigades and other paramilitaries, funded by the CIA and trained in the USA.

Why can't people just admit that the US deep-state and CIA were heavily involved and greatly responsible for this war, at least as much as Russia??

[JonPreston]

On February 10, 1990, Gorbachev met in Moscow with West German leader Helmut Kohl and gave Soviet assent, in principle, to German unification in NATO, as long as NATO did not expand to the east.

U.S. Secretary of State James Baker said that NATO would not expand eastward when he met with Soviet Foreign Minister Eduard Shevardnadze on February 9, 1990

[iontheball]

If we stayed out of Ukraine’s affairs in 2014 all this would have been avoided.
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I surmise the days of U.S. foreign meddling have come to a forced demise. The so-called ‘experts’ have blown all U.S.credibility and now they have our country in a downward spiral. Fools all of them for playing around in absolutely none of our business. Now, we are going to freeze our asses off this winter while rationing the soup cans in our cupboard.

[SpokeshaveReturns]

Did someone say "shrinkage"

the possibility that his country has shrunk irreversibly.

[detch]

Expect CNN to report in the next round of concessions that it looks like Odessa is lost and there is little chance for Ukraine to win back any shoreline.

Ruh Roh.

Stay tuned to our trusty ever-lying media.

[detch]

Expect CNN to report in the next round of concessions that it looks like Odessa is lost and there is little chance for Ukraine to win back any shoreline.

Ruh Roh.

Stay tuned to our trusty ever-lying media.

[CodeJockey]

[JonPreston]

Major oof!!

[JonPreston]

LOLOL!

[McGruff]

John McCain tells Ukraine protesters: ‘We are here to support your just cause’

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/dec/15/john-mccain-ukraine-protests-support-just-cause

I knew that would not turn out well based upon Libya and Syria.

[SVTCobra03]

Russian Forces 'Increasingly Hollowed Out' in Ukraine—U.K. Intel

https://www.newsweek.com/russia-ukraine-war-putin-troops-hollowed-out-mod-kremenchuk-1719734

[Trumpisourlastchance]

Agree. But every Ukrinian being dead is a sacrifice they are willing to make.

[Petrosius]

Why can't people just admit that the US deep-state and CIA were heavily involved and greatly responsible for this war, at least as much as Russia??

Because it is not true. There is no justification for Russia's invasion, period!. It was Russia that was interfering with Ukrainian politics that lead to the popular revolt in 2014. Putin made it clear in his February 21 speech that the real reason for Russia's actions is that he does not accept Ukrainian independence from Russia and wants to correct the mistake of Lenin in giving it the right of secession.

Ukraine is not fighting a surrogate war on behalf of others; they are defending themselves from a Russian attack. The only surrogate war that I see is that of the Russian supporters who want to use this invasion as a means to strike against Soros and the New World Order.

[RetiredTexasVet]

Well DUH .. John Kerry-Heinz must have helped them on this one.

[BlackbirdSST]

Still time to kill more Russians, and make this as unprofitable for Putin and his orcs as possible so they think a third time before doing it again.

So how many of these Russians Orcs have you killed, Chin? I suspect you are still sporting a cherry. NeoCons are all mouth.