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Biden officials privately doubt that Ukraine can win back all of its territory
CNN ^ | 6/28/22 | Natasha Bertrand

Posted on 06/28/2022 8:18:42 AM PDT by JonPreston

White House officials are losing confidence that Ukraine will ever be able to take back all of the land it has lost to Russia over the past four months of war, US officials told CNN, even with the heavier and more sophisticated weaponry the US and its allies plan to send.

Advisers to President Joe Biden have begun debating internally how and whether Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky should shift his definition of a Ukrainian “victory” – adjusting for the possibility that his country has shrunk irreversibly.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: biden; cnn; doubt; nastybertrand; natashabertrand; ukraine; xinn
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To: Petrosius

Exactly. Ukraine’s attempt to join NATO started AFTER the Russians invaded in 2014, not before.

It is Russian aggression that fuels the expansion of NATO, not the other way around.


41 posted on 06/28/2022 9:01:02 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Petrosius
now that Ukraine says that they are no longer seeking NATO membership?

LOL. They also "promised" to implement the Minsk Accords.

42 posted on 06/28/2022 9:02:40 AM PDT by PGR88 (<i>)
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To: JonPreston

“Biden officials privately doubt that Ukraine can win back all of its territory”

Translation: Putin gave The Big Guy more money than Zelensky did.


43 posted on 06/28/2022 9:03:26 AM PDT by MercyFlush (☭☭☭ Soviet Russia must be destroyed. ☭☭☭)
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44 posted on 06/28/2022 9:04:41 AM PDT by AnthonySoprano (Lindsey Graham: How can anyone be Mad at Joe Biden)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin
Over $60 billion and counting. Hundreds of billions more will be needed to rebuild Ukraine. We are stuck to this tar baby for a longtime. Goodby Afghanistan, hello Ukraine.Endless wars.

And Putin's price hikes on food and energy hurt the American people.

45 posted on 06/28/2022 9:04:58 AM PDT by kabar
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To: 1Old Pro

“These warmongers and their proxy war are walking Ukrainians into a meat grinder.”

Russia of course bears no responsibility for their war of conquest.


46 posted on 06/28/2022 9:05:11 AM PDT by MercyFlush (☭☭☭ Soviet Russia must be destroyed. ☭☭☭)
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47 posted on 06/28/2022 9:05:39 AM PDT by AnthonySoprano (Lindsey Graham: How can anyone be Mad at Joe Biden)
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To: Petrosius

Don’t bother debating the Kremlin’s useful idiots. They’ve had their panties in a twist since 2014 over Ukraine and day dream of Putin shoving every Ukrainian into ovens.


48 posted on 06/28/2022 9:06:11 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: AnthonySoprano

Bud, Soros HQ EU is funding Russia’s war. Hundreds of millions of euros every day. Carrying water for mass murdering KGB filth is unbecoming of a conservative.


49 posted on 06/28/2022 9:08:31 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: Boogieman
Exactly. Ukraine’s attempt to join NATO started AFTER the Russians invaded in 2014, not before.

NO. DON'T LIE. It started, at least, when Bush declared at Bucharest in 2008. The April 3, 2008 Bucharest summit says:

23. NATO welcomes Ukraine’s and Georgia’s Euro-Atlantic aspirations for membership in NATO. We agreed today that these countries will become members of NATO.

50 posted on 06/28/2022 9:08:34 AM PDT by PGR88 (<i>)
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51 posted on 06/28/2022 9:12:09 AM PDT by AnthonySoprano (Lindsey Graham: How can anyone be Mad at Joe Biden)
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52 posted on 06/28/2022 9:13:37 AM PDT by AnthonySoprano (Lindsey Graham: How can anyone be Mad at Joe Biden)
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To: CarolinaReaganFan

Yes! The War channels (CNN-MSNBC) have surrendered.

They have ABORTION as the new issue to focus on. Four months of non stop demonstrations.

Take a hike Zelensky.


53 posted on 06/28/2022 9:20:08 AM PDT by blackberry1
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54 posted on 06/28/2022 9:24:32 AM PDT by AnthonySoprano (Lindsey Graham: How can anyone be Mad at Joe Biden)
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To: JonPreston

Concerning the author, Natasha Bertrand:
https://greenwald.substack.com/p/cnns-new-reporter-natasha-bertrand

From:
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/06/another-zelensky-lie-debunked-white-house-says-ukraine-must-give-up-territory.html#more


55 posted on 06/28/2022 9:26:47 AM PDT by cranked
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To: lodi90; All
Don’t bother debating the Kremlin’s useful idiots.

Can't wait until Trump tosses the first blue & yellow flag wagger from one of his rallies. 🔥🔥🔥

56 posted on 06/28/2022 9:27:20 AM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera )
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To: kiryandil

Macron told Joe not to bother traveling to the UAE to beg for oil as he had planned to do. They’re at capacity (g). That comment bumped up oil to $113bbl this morning. I guess he’ll now go to Venezuela and beg Sean Penn’s communist pal, Maduro


57 posted on 06/28/2022 9:32:43 AM PDT by JonPreston
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58 posted on 06/28/2022 9:35:23 AM PDT by JonPreston
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To: JonPreston
That comment bumped up oil to $113bbl this morning

It is to laugh.

Just think of the oil we'll save by not sending Short Bus One to the Middle East.


59 posted on 06/28/2022 9:41:20 AM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: PGR88
LOL. They also "promised" to implement the Minsk Accords.

Contrary to Russian propaganda, Ukraine, in accord with Minsk II, approved a special status for Donbas in 2015. Later, in 2019, they even granted limited self-rule. It was the Russian backed militants who balked. Also keep in mind that there would had been no need for the Minsk Accords if Russia had not first invaded, contrary their own promise to respect the borders of Ukraine. But in the end, the language policy of Ukraine is none of Russia's business.

60 posted on 06/28/2022 9:48:53 AM PDT by Petrosius
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