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US and European Mercenaries Face Defacto and Dejure Death Sentence
Gateway Pundit ^ | 18 Jun 22 | Larry Johnson

Posted on 06/18/2022 6:05:22 AM PDT by delta7

The Russian Ministry of Defense released a ton of information today that proves they have been keeping tabs on the foreign mercenaries who went to Ukraine in February to fight the Russians. According to the Russian information one of the Americans, a former Marine, Grady Kurpasi is dead. The other two, Alex Drueke and Tai Ngoc Huyn aka Andy Win, are prisoners. Andy has been imprisoned since March.

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KEYWORDS: ukraine; war
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Having “ worked” for DOS in the field awhile back I can shed some light on how it worked for me. Once in country, a week of in country briefings, DNA samples taken, challenge code words given and told to memorize, etc….the interesting part was “ if captured or killed, we will do the best to recover you ( remember the three US contractor hostages captured by the FARC in Columbia?), but realize you will be reported to the press as a “ tourist” and have no ties with .gov….

That said, when I did a contract years back in Saudi and was contracted by a foreign nation ( no names), I was warned that participating in any “ host military actions” would result in my citizenship being revoked. We were half Brits, a quarter US, and a quarter Paki nationals. The Brits ran the operation, and were very careful ( and clever) in keeping the operation sealed….remember way back when the US supplied helicopters to the Kingdom? Well, a few were shot down around Tabuk, by the Israelis, a real $hitshow….US supplied the helo’s, a foreign country contracted to maintain and fly them in the Kingdom, the Kingdom gave them to the Palestinians, the Palestinians flew them on missions against Israel our “ Allie’s”, getting to see the picture?

I can only imagine the deception by the Biden administration in Ukraine.

1 posted on 06/18/2022 6:05:23 AM PDT by delta7
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To: delta7

Forgot, NOTHING is as it appears, government deception is at an historic high, what never would have been done under previous administrations is now being done with impunity.


2 posted on 06/18/2022 6:07:18 AM PDT by delta7
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To: delta7

Just how intimately involved was the CIA in the operations you participated in? Getting one of the CIA operatives who’ve been working the Ukraine CF to fess up in captivity would be quite the PR coup.


3 posted on 06/18/2022 6:13:23 AM PDT by hardspunned (former GOP globalist stooge)
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To: delta7

More:

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/06/three-american-volunteers-ukraine-fighting-russian-army-reported-missing-families-desperately-waiting-word/

“ A photo emerged on Thursday of Drueke and Huynh in the back of a Russian military truck, apparently confirming they had been captured by Russian forces north of Kharkiv last week. CNN could not independently verify when the photo was taken.…”

The war cheerleaders will be quick to try and discredit the Pundit, wait a few more days….if held by the Independent Province forces, expect a war crime trial, if held by Ivan, expect silence by Vlad.


4 posted on 06/18/2022 6:13:55 AM PDT by delta7
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To: delta7

Hundreds of Ameriican mercenaries or whatever…have already died in Ukraine. Hundreds more remain. There actually are more Canadians than Americans involved.

Military Summary on Rumble posted a Russian list of numbers from all countries in his 17 June update.

This is a good analyst to follow. Daily updates.
https://rumble.com/v18te46-ukraine.-military-summary-and-analysis-17.06.2022.html


5 posted on 06/18/2022 6:14:17 AM PDT by silverleaf (“Freedom ultimately means the right of other people to do things that you disagree with”. T. Sowell )
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To: delta7

We’re being bombarded nonstop by military grade psychological warfare.

Hypernormalization

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HyperNormalisation

“The word hypernormalization was coined by Alexei Yurchak, a professor of anthropology who was born in Leningrad and later went to teach in the United States. He introduced the word in his book Everything Was Forever, Until It Was No More: The Last Soviet Generation (2006), which describes paradoxes of Soviet life during the 1970s and 1980s.[3][4] He says that everyone in the Soviet Union knew the system was failing, but no one could imagine an alternative to the status quo, and politicians and citizens alike were resigned to maintaining the pretense of a functioning society.[5] Over time, this delusion became a self-fulfilling prophecy and the fakeness was accepted by everyone as real, an effect that Yurchak termed hypernormalisation.[6]”


6 posted on 06/18/2022 6:16:38 AM PDT by Chunga85 (An arrogant govt combined with an ignorant population is a recipe for disaster.)
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To: Chunga85

A misuse of the English - “pseudonormalism” would be more accurate.


7 posted on 06/18/2022 6:21:10 AM PDT by Chainmail (Harrassment, to be effective, must be continuous.)
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To: delta7

Volunteers are not mercenaries. There is an actual and legal distinction which you and others on this forum clearly do not recognize or appreciate.


8 posted on 06/18/2022 6:22:31 AM PDT by Justa (If where you came from is so great then why aren't Floridians moving there?)
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To: hardspunned

There is a mistaken belief the CIA runs the operations, not True, our DOS heads up many- remember when Hillary’s DOS Libya operation was exposed? …and covered up by Rice and Nobama?

I have seen every alphabet agency in different parts of the world, NSA, DIA, Naval Intelligence, even some FAA lunkheads deep in the Amazon- huh? Yeah, folks have no idea how quiet (and corrupted ) and widespread.gov black ops have become.


9 posted on 06/18/2022 6:24:24 AM PDT by delta7
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To: Chainmail

You’ve got your eye on the ball.


10 posted on 06/18/2022 6:24:40 AM PDT by Chunga85 (An arrogant govt combined with an ignorant population is a recipe for disaster.)
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To: silverleaf

"The numbers for the Americas (i.e., from Canada all the way to South America) is smaller–1267. Five hundred thirty Americans, some former military, joined the battle. Two hundred and fourteen are dead and 227 came to their senses and retreated to the good old USA. According to the Russian tally, 89 Americans are either captive or still in the fight."

11 posted on 06/18/2022 6:26:37 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every leftist is a blood-thirsty fascist yearning to be free of current societal constraints.)
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To: Justa
That’s a valid point, but I’m not sure anyone here on FR has enough information about the circumstances of these people to know whether they are “volunteers” or “mercenaries.”

When the U.S. government pours $40 billion into a den of corruption like Ukraine, I think it’s a safe bet to assume that every U.S. citizen over there is a mercenary.

12 posted on 06/18/2022 6:28:37 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("It's midnight in Manhattan. This is no time to get cute; it's a mad dog's promenade.")
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To: delta7

I can’t even get on a side here. I am certainly untrusting of the Americans, even if they are working for America. I am not siding with Russia. But I am not siding with America or Americans either. A government that does this much lying does not deserve the backing of its own people. When they lie to us, they go it alone.


13 posted on 06/18/2022 6:30:06 AM PDT by poinq
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To: delta7
Russia warns pro-Ukraine foreign fighters won't get POW status, will be criminals

Konashenkov warns that pro-Ukrainian fighters won't be considered combatants in accordance with international humanitarian law or become prisoners of war.

MARCH 4, 2022

14 posted on 06/18/2022 6:32:01 AM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: delta7

How does this work? An American travels to Ukraine, and joins a Ukrainian military unit. Maybe he did that for idealistic reasons. Or maybe he’s working for some shadowy company, and he really is a mercenary. Anyway, his ID papers are all in order, They say he’s a member of the Ukrainian army. Then he’s captured.

Is he a member of the Ukrainian military, or is he a mercenary? How can the Russians differentiate?


15 posted on 06/18/2022 6:32:39 AM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: hardspunned

Getting one of the CIA operatives who’ve been working the Ukraine CF to fess up in captivity would be quite the PR coup.

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Never going to happen. The “ threats “ and disclosure statements signed are supposedly legal and binding.

In my case, a five year non disclosure paper signed, with loads of “ punitive “ action that would be taken, ie, confiscation of all personal computers, electronic devices, etc…and to all who I emailed or communicated with….mother, father, friends, children, etc…..do realize, anyone can simply “ disappear “, shuttled by small jet from one lock up facility to another- usually located in smaller airfield’s private hangars…the eye opener was the prison ship, but that was back when Guantanamo was ramping up….


16 posted on 06/18/2022 6:33:18 AM PDT by delta7
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To: delta7
I can only imagine the deception by the Biden administration in Ukraine.

Speaking of which...my understanding is there is some evidence that Drueke is a chemical weapons specialist and not an ordinary combat soldier.


17 posted on 06/18/2022 6:34:23 AM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera )
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To: delta7
The Russian Ministry of Defense released a ton of information today that proves they have been keeping tabs on the foreign mercenaries who went to Ukraine...

That's partially because many of today's young folk are dumb enough to post everything on social media.

"Hey, I'm going to Ukraine to fight the Ruskies! I'll keep ya'll posted! Follow and Like!"

18 posted on 06/18/2022 6:34:31 AM PDT by Angelino97
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To: delta7

War as hell. It’s kind of like being a gunfighter in the 1800s. You always think you’re going to shoot the other guy and are shocked as you lay on the ground with a gut wound, slowly dying.

Knock, knock, knocking on heaven’s door...


19 posted on 06/18/2022 6:36:33 AM PDT by cuban leaf (My prediction: Harris is Spiro Agnew. We'll soon see who becomes Gerald Ford, and our next prez.)
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To: Justa
Volunteers are not mercenaries. There is an actual and legal distinction which you and others on this forum clearly do not recognize or appreciate.

Its mot a matter of failure to recognize or appreciate a difference. Recognizing or appreciating the the distinction does not serve Putin's interests, so his fanbois do not do so.

20 posted on 06/18/2022 6:44:23 AM PDT by Pilsner
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