[CedarDave]

All three branches of NM government are controlled by Dems with both the executive and legislative branches in the hands of radicals who want NM to emulate California's "progressive" ways. They gerrymandered the three US Congressional districts this past winter to give Dems a majority in all three. Here in conservative SE New Mexico four miles from the Texas border, we are now in the same district as far-left Santa Fe and those northern NM residents adjacent to the Arizona and Colorado borders.

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[MercyFlush]

What’s the point of the commission if their approval is nothing more than a rubber stamp?

[cranked]

We seriously, SERIOUSLY need to adopt the French/France’s system of voting......

[Principled]

What if they just don’t certify?

[jacknhoo]

Don’t certify the results.

[A Navy Vet]

And the hits just keep on coming.

[Gnome1949]

The NM Supreme Court has no authority over the county election commissions. The whole point of these commissions is INDEPENDENCE to supervise elections.

There is no legal basis for this court to intervene. This is an unlawful usurpation of power without authority.

[BiglyCommentary]

“four miles from the Texas border,”

Well then it’s a short move. I’ll donate $25 towards the moving truck. :)

[Tupelo]

I think it will be very interesting to see how long the three-member Otero County Commission can hold out against the full weight & power of the state. My guess is, less than a week until the weakest commissioner gets wobbly and once one yields, the other two will go down quickly.
I also wonder, if the state can ‘fire’ the
three incumbent commissioners and appoint new ones that are “on the Team”.

[Boogieman]

“ordered Otero County commissioners to certify”

A certification is meaningless if an official can be ordered to certify something against their will. I’d resign in protest before doing it.

[cableguymn]

“I hereby certify these results are bunk, garbage, tampered with”

“thus I am calling for a new election, on paper ballots with serial numbers, ID verification and other measures to make sure the voter is a legal voter”

[SteveH]

prior to this, everywhere dominion machines are used, the courts ruled no standing.

suddenly when (presumably) elected commissioners decline to certify a dominion generated result, a court has a standing?

it seems to me that the law is clear- the commissioners have the final say in the matter (otherwise their function is purely ceremonial, which is to say, no protection against fraud).

if the commissioners have final say, then what? the argument appears to be that the state has no alternative to dominion machine usage. however, that does not seem to be the case, at least at first glance. the state has an alternative, which is to pass an alternative means of counting (such as hand counting) as a way to resolve the impasse.

Thus in this view at least, the state and not the county is being the stick in the mud.

Common sense says that with physical ballots, the use of machines is never a necessity, just a convenience. (I would imagine that the principles of laws of evidence would back this: the principal evidence of voting are the physical ballots themselves, and machine generated tabulations are derivative evidence.) (real evidence versus demonstrative evidence?) At any rate, is it too much to ask, even for the modern court system, that common sense prevail?

[SteveH]

a writ of mandamus applies to situations in which a government official abused his or her discretion, or failed to act in accordance with his or her lawful duties.

i don’t see how this applies to the otero county commissioners.

furthermore, it seems to me that if personal fines are applied by a court, it would impinge on the personal rights of the commissioners. This and possibly other aspects could justify the commissioners filing suit in federal court. Even if they got a liberal judge, the federal jurisdiction appeals could conceivably tie up the election.

[SteveH]

from:

https://www.currentargus.com/story/news/2022/06/15/new-mexico-secretary-of-state-sues-otero-county-over-primary-results/65361120007/

“The Secretary of State’s office said the machines were inspected by a bipartisan voting system certification committee most recently in 2021, though Griffin complained that Commissioners were not permitted to inspect the Dominion machines.”

imho the court interpretation of the relevant laws seems overly biased in favor of the state, leaving the county commissioners no leeway to exercise any independent judgment, thus thwarting the intent of the law.

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