Posted on 05/28/2022 5:09:53 AM PDT by dennisw
IS Ukraine LOSING the war in Donbas? Defenders fall back to avoid capture as Russians advance after blasting towns to wastelands while Boris Johnson offers fresh support to Ukrainian president Zelensky Withdrawal from the Luhansk region likely, admits Ukraine in new war blow
Area is hugely significant and one of main aims of Putin and Russia's invasion President Zelensky said Ukraine was protecting Luhansk as best it could Putin had launched invasion under the aims of capturing Luhansk and Donetsk Boris Johnson offered renewed support for Ukraine in a phone call with Zelensky
Ukraine has admitted it may have to retreat from its last post in the Luhansk region as Russian forces continue their relentless march.
Putin's forces - now into their fourth month of the invasion - have concentrated on the east of the country in recent weeks.
Ukrainian soldiers leaving Luhansk will be a blow to the country, due to its symbolic significance in the war.
This morning Boris Johnson offered fresh support to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky.
Zelensky said they spoke on the phone about 'strengthening defence support for Ukraine, intensifying work on security guarantees and supplying fuel'.
He added: 'We must work together to prevent a food crisis and unblock Ukrainian ports.'
Putin wants both Luhansk and Donetsk regions in full and their capture was one of his earliest objectives in the deranged despot's so-called 'special military operation'.
(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...
You are full of BS. A holier than thou know it all bullsheeter. I hope ya get frost bite.
The Donetsk airport was very heavily fought over by both sides in 2014. The notion that the Ukrainians alone shelled the airport is astoundingly stupid propaganda.
I guess my dilemma is that if this gets pushed beyond sanity to a nuclear exchange, it will take YEARS (maybe never) for the 'dust' to settle and quite possibly there wouldn't be anyone around sentient enough to realize that.
Rightly or wrongly, there could very well be drastic, irreparable consequences in just taking an automatic I-hate-Russia response because the MIC, this administration, multiple NWO governments and organizations are chomping at the bit to supply arms of war to Ukraine, the consequences bedamned. If this everything-for-Ukraine cause is THAT just and necessary, why is there NO WORLD LEADER standing before the UN calling for a vote for a worldwide coalition to bring arms and TROOPS into the fray and stop it?
As much as I now abhor the legacy of GHWB, he at least did that when Iraq invaded Kuwait? Why isn't that senile old Biden up there at the UN doing the same thing, then? This is all about the military industrial complex, Democrat and RINO warhawks, and an administration desperately searching for a narrative to divert questions as to why American mothers are having trouble finding baby formula and working Americans are paying outrageous inflated prices for gasoline.
I keep seeing people say this, but I cannot imagine how a major war in Europe started by Russia's desire to conquer more territory is of no interest to the United States. How can that possibly be the case?
Sorry, my bad. I reposted it after I couldn’t find it.
See #178
Not at all. But you are looking at something the wrong way. There is one nation on Earth which above all others offers a possibility of white people thriving and making things of themselves and that nation is Russia, and definitely not Ukraine. The deepstate/nato/biden/zelensky/pentagon plan in operation here has as its main goal the destruction of Russia. Noody needs any sort of a plan for the destruction of Ukraine, Ukraine is doing a collosal job of destroying itself.
Or maybe you were waiting for European nations to save the white race..... That is, the same idiot eurowanker nations who allow their countries to be totally overrun with all the crap you read about amd where the Kalergi plan calls for the total dewhitening in about another fifteen years...
You guys keep using that a boogeyman to try to scare everyone away from policy choices you disagree with.
The last part of your post gets closer to the truth: you view the war as a distraction from achieving political gains against the Biden regime, which means you prefer America's foreign enemies win as long as you get domestic political benefit from it.
Just like Hanoi Jane and the Dems.
Hah, that has been happening in the western world since the covid scam. ‘Lives wrecked-check, family members killed-check, homes lost and destroyed-check. Yep, same type of thing.
“That’s the result of years of living under communism. Russian people and their apologists actually believe that having a good life, food to eat, and modern conveniences is a bad thing.”
That gem of your made up wisdom is about as dumb as it gets. This isn’t 1975. Ukrainians are poor and that disgusting corrupt leadership of theirs has kept them that way. There are some very wealthy people there, but those aren’t the folks sent to do the fighting in the proxy war for the WEF/Biden admin. The wealthy ones will pick up their giant suitcase stuffed with US taxpayer dollars and leave until the dust settles.
SANE people wouldn’t push for WWIII and/or a nuclear exchange, because that’s what it boils down to. You cannot possibly state that this administration isn’t completely disregarding the potentiality in their ever-present drive to divert attention from their disastrous handling of this country for the last 18 months. It is not a boogeyman argument because NO, this administration and its allies don’t care about it - farthest thing from their limited minds. It can be fixed this November....
There’s no denying that. Even if that fool could actually get 81 million people here to agree to it....
Says the Soros stooge.
Oh you are now bragging - you can claim anything on line and does not make it so, newbie ... go back to whence you came and hide
The only risk one took in the NSA was a server rack falling over on your foot.
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Oh then you must have missed the Cold War entirely. Lucky you.
“ How can that possibly be the case? ”
Simple. We bled and died twice over the political arrangements between France, Prussia, Austria, and Russia (and maybe Turkey).
It was an enormous waste of blood and treasure, maintaining the artificial American order in Europe which involves distorting and repressing natural
political evolution is expensive and not in our national interest.
So, that’s how it is the case. Our prosperity and our security would be better if we had stayed out of Europe’s wars, and I (and many others) mean to see we don’t make the same mistake a third time.
But people seem to have no problem posting mainstream media propaganda on here, and believing it wholeheartedly.
By way of explanation, I view Russia under Putin as a hostile power. Contrary to what one hears from Tucker Carlson and Steve Bannon -- both of whom I otherwise agree with -- Russia versus Ukraine is not a mere "border dispute" but a brutal and lawless invasion that directly endangers NATO members and American security interests.
The point of Putin's attack on Ukraine is to advance the creation of a neo-Soviet iteration of the Warsaw Pact and its predecessor Tsarist empire. Indeed, Putin's government has made demands that include the demilitarization of Poland, a NATO member, and Putin's Chechen ally has publicly threatened an attack on Poland for its support of Ukraine.
The problem with foreign policy "realism" is that it eventually devolves into great power blocs jockeying for position in a situation where some miscalculation leads to a world war, which is what happened twice in the 20th century. In both cases, the US got dragged into the conflicts. So the whole raison d'etre of US foreign policy since 1945 was to create a system where aggressive war would no longer be tolerated and some international framework for resolving disputes was in place. Almost without exception all the post-1945 conflicts were conflicts within states or between states that did not involve rearranging borders.
Putin has decided to break that system and go back to great power spheres of influence and wars of conquest. That will inevitably drag the US into a host of new conflicts, so I don't find "foreign policy realism" to actually be very realisic.
https://www.cato.org/commentary/americas-ukraine-hypocrisy
You have blind rage when it comes to Russia. You probably pop a blood vessel at the site of Russian salad dressing.
If you want to be deliberately obtuse when it comes to things you can research, then I’ll just be a jerk to you.
Point to a doll where the Bad Russian Man touched you. Do you have nightmares about Putin? Do you get a tingle up your leg when you see or think about Zelensky?
Don’t trigger the Zelensky Fan Club with facts and pictures.
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