Posted on 05/27/2022 12:05:38 PM PDT by conservative98
Especially when the perp is *STILL SHOOTING*.
Unfortunately, this is not uncommon especially with small town police, not just in Texas.
Texas school shooting: Official says Uvalde commander made ‘wrong decision’ during massacre
“I wasn’t there but I’m just telling you from what we know, that we believe there should have been an entry as soon as you can,” he added.
“Obviously, based upon the information we have, there were children in that classroom that were at risk,” McCraw also said.
https://www.foxnews.com/live-news/uvalde-texas-school-shooting
One expert interviewed by The Post called the delay “a very serious error.”
“In my mind, there should have been an immediate response with the first force response,” said Maria Haberfeld, a police science professor at John Jay College of Criminal Justice in Manhattan. “Every second, every minute that you wait, you are going to have another casualty.”
https://nypost.com/2022/05/27/texas-school-shooter-got-in-through-door-propped-open-by-teacher/
As active shooter alerts went out, parents came to the school in a panic about the safety of their loved ones, videos show. But officers are seen blocking them, and yelling for some to “take cover.”
“You’re scared of getting shot?” one mother is heard yelling at a cop. “I’ll go in without a vest — I will!”
Another agitated parent shouts, “Are your kids in there? No!”
At least one parent was reportedly allowed to go in — an off-duty border agent who rushed into the school and headed straight to a wing where he knew his daughter attended second grade. Jacob Albarado told the New York Times he helped evacuate his daughter and others when he headed to the school, where his wife is also a teacher.
THIS!!
I heard people from the Uvalde area say much the same thing prior to this event...
Would also point out that the cops were actively stopping and detaining parents who attempted to deal with the situation themselves.
Stopping parents from protecting their kids from eminent danger is pure evil.
What were these cops thinking?
If you don’t have the courage to run toward the gunshots then don’t become a cop.
That's classic government BS and misdirection. Every sane person already knows what to do in a general sense when some lunatic is shooting people. Stop them, using whatever resources you have, or flee from them if you are unarmed and unable to do anything to stop them.
In the case of armed police officers the tactic is simple. Move quickly and start shooting at the shooter.
Obviously there are details, like make sure you take your gun off of the safety position before charging in, and try to use cover, and don't shoot your colleagues, but all of that is just standard practices for any defensive or offensive shooting. And something every police office should know.
What good is the database of ideas if the police at the scene are standing around doing nothing but arguing with the people trying to get them to do something?
“Is it really a “decision?” Doesn’t law enforcement have a protocol to deal with these situations? What was the protocol they are trained to follow?”
Given this was a small rural town they may have not had protocols to handle something like this.
Doesn’t matter. No special protocols or training was really needed here. Just common horse sense.
Kids were inside calling 911, how could he think it was over?
The incident commander, the chief of police of the Uvalde school district, determined that the situation inside Robb Elementary School had transitioned from an active shooter to a barricaded subject, McCraw said. The district police chief, Pete Arredondo, did not attend Friday's news conference, and McCraw did not refer to him by name, discussing only his title.
District police chief, Pete Arredondo
Exactly!
> “You’re scared of getting shot?” one mother is heard yelling at a cop. “I’ll go in without a vest — I will!” <
And she would have, I’m sure. She would have gone in with just a baseball bat. It almost makes you cry how brave that woman was, and how cowardly those cops were.
I haven’t seen anything indicating that there was a “stand down” order (just speculation).
It doesn’t matter if there was or wasn’t. How could anyone just stand around when they know there’s someone in the school shooting children? You go in and try to stop it no matter what.
They need to put a couple of smoke grenades and flash bang grenades in their cars.
And why wasn’t tear gas used?
Twenty three years and we’re still living in the 20th century.
They all need to be fired - and maybe tried for murder.
So what’s he going to do to make sure the right decision is made in the future?
That being said, that's not a situation where you can afford to be wrong about your assumption, so you have to act as though there is at least one kid still alive.
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