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Authorities: Hate against Taiwanese led to church attack
Yahoo News ^ | 5/16/2022 | ap

Posted on 05/16/2022 1:42:02 PM PDT by VAFreedom

A gunman in a deadly attack at a Southern California church was a Chinese immigrant motivated by hate for Taiwanese people, authorities said.

The shooter killed Dr. John Cheng, 52, and wounded five others during a lunch held by Irvine Taiwanese Presbyterian Church, which worships at Geneva Presbyterian Church in Laguna Woods, authorities said at a Monday news conference.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: china; johncheng; massshooter; massshooting; taiwan
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this new article looks legit, it is time for American-Taiwanese to arm themselves. I dont trust Chinese nationalist. they should revoke the citizenship of Chinese people in the states who does not renounce CCP.
1 posted on 05/16/2022 1:42:02 PM PDT by VAFreedom
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To: VAFreedom
Authorities: Hate against Taiwanese led to church attack

Man, with insight like that, no wonder they get the big bucks !

2 posted on 05/16/2022 1:44:18 PM PDT by tomkat ( SOTU = FUBAR )
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To: VAFreedom

What’s needed is more bigotry. Back during segregation, you just made the disfavored person sit in the back of a bus or refused to serve them at a restaurant. Now, all that’s forbidden, so the only permitted expression of bigotry is to shoot people. Bring back the good old days!/just kidding


3 posted on 05/16/2022 1:47:17 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (All Hail the MAGA King, beloved of Ultra MAGAs and Deplorables!)
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To: VAFreedom
Calling the Rooftop Koreans. Come in please!

4 posted on 05/16/2022 1:50:52 PM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie (LORD, grant thy people grace to withstand the temptations of the world, the flesh, and the devil.)
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To: VAFreedom

We’re (the Mrs. & I) are wondering what a China man was doing in CA miles away from LVNV. I suspect the luncheon was limited to locals and he was not “invited”.


5 posted on 05/16/2022 2:00:31 PM PDT by egfowler3 (Still a Deplorable, a Christian 'Infidel', an American patriot & 'a vast right-wing conspirator')
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To: VAFreedom

That’s an interesting development.


6 posted on 05/16/2022 2:18:02 PM PDT by Little Ray (Civilization runs on a narrow margin. What sustains it is not magic, but hard work. )
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To: VAFreedom

This is sad.

I do think the United States should recognize Taiwan as a country. Our current arrangement is based on the expectation that the Taiwan issue would be resolved through peaceful means. That expectation has not been met.


7 posted on 05/16/2022 2:23:48 PM PDT by Tai_Chung
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To: VAFreedom

In 2020, there were only 29 Asian / Pacific Islander / South Asian members at that church. Non-members...I don’t know.
= = = =
Racial/Ethnic: 2020
Asian / Pacific Islander / South Asian...29
Black / African American / African...5
Hispanic / Latino...3
Middle Eastern / North African...1
Multiracial...1
Native American / Alaska / Native Indigenous...0
White...229


8 posted on 05/16/2022 2:25:27 PM PDT by moovova
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To: VAFreedom

Not getting the same outrage from keyboard warriors from big media like the attack in Buffalo


9 posted on 05/16/2022 2:25:32 PM PDT by stuck_in_new_orleans
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To: moovova
Geneva - PC(USA) Research Services - Church Trends
10 posted on 05/16/2022 2:25:45 PM PDT by moovova
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To: moovova

There are apparently 2 ‘churches’. One called Geneva and one called Taiwanese. This Taiwanese church had moved to Geneva from a Tustin church.

One report says 40-50 people at an after-worship luncheon in honor of departing Pastor Billy Chang.


11 posted on 05/16/2022 2:47:16 PM PDT by jjotto ( Blessed are You LORD, who crushes enemies and subdues the wicked.)
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To: jjotto

Yeah, I saw that too late. This was a very personal killing for the Chinese.


12 posted on 05/16/2022 3:02:11 PM PDT by moovova
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To: VAFreedom

Has anyone asked Nets owner Joseph Tsai for a comment?


13 posted on 05/16/2022 3:15:34 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: moovova

They post those number publicly?


14 posted on 05/16/2022 3:16:26 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: VAFreedom

The article tries to make it all about “hate” and tensions between China and Taiwan, but if you read on down, there’s this:


A former neighbor, meanwhile, says Chou’s life unraveled after he was nearly beaten to death several years ago.

Chou had been a pleasant man who used to own the Las Vegas apartment building where he lived, Balmore Orellana told The Associated Press.

But Orellana said Chou received a head injury and serious body injuries in an attack by a tenant and he sold the property. The neighbor said that last summer Chou fired a gun inside his apartment. No one was hurt but he was evicted.

Orellana says Chou’s mental ability seemed to diminish in recent months, he was angry that the government didn’t provide comfort in his retirement, and he may have been homeless.”


Sounds like the man’s brain was broken and he’d fallen through the floor. People with broken brains with uncontrollable emotions, fear, rage, look for a “cause” or “reason” or target. At which point perhaps he started ruminating about his not-so-pleasant youthful days in Taiwan and took it out on those innocent church goers. Maybe I have it wrong, but it sounds like it could well have happened that way.

But “racial hatred” (even though Taiwan is 97% Han and Chou is a Han surname, so race does not come into it) and the China-Taiwan thing (already in the news) get people more worked up, get more clicks than just another case of untreated mental illness. One wonders if his family tried to get him help but could not.


15 posted on 05/16/2022 3:16:40 PM PDT by CatHerd (Whoever said "All's fair in love and war" probably never participated in either.)
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To: moovova

Yup. Chinese violence abroad is well known.


16 posted on 05/16/2022 3:16:52 PM PDT by fuente (Liberty resides in three boxes: the ballot box, the jury box and the cartridge box--Fredrick Douglas)
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To: Tai_Chung

Yes. It wasn’t hate against Taiwanese, per se, he was against Taiwan Independence.


17 posted on 05/16/2022 3:21:07 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: CatHerd

Yes.

I figure he’s nuts and his anti-Taiwan pro-China beliefs were the motive.

Would he have done something so crazy if the events described hadn’t occurred?

Doesn’t matter.

And there is no reason to conclude that the portrait presented is 100% accurate either.

I assume his defense will play this up.


18 posted on 05/16/2022 3:24:19 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: VAFreedom
Chou's family was among many that were apparently forcibly removed from China to Taiwan sometime after 1948, Orange County District Attorney Todd Spitzer said. Chou's hatred toward the island, documented in hand-written notes that authorities found, seems like it began when he felt he wasn't treated well while living there.

He was from Taiwan too. His family didn’t have to leave China and would be easy for him to migrate to instead of the first United States

19 posted on 05/16/2022 3:57:04 PM PDT by Tai_Chung
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To: VAFreedom; ifinnegan

I don’t know that you could call this guy a “Chinese nationalist” if you mean the CCP. The article stated:


Chou’s family was among many that were apparently forcibly removed from China to Taiwan sometime after 1948, Orange County District Attorney Todd Spitzer said. Chou’s hatred toward the island, documented in hand-written notes that authorities found, seems like it began when he felt he wasn’t treated well while living there.

Actually, Chiang Kai-shek’s US-backed Nationalists had to flee to Taiwan at that time when faced with defeat by Mao Zedong’s Communists (estimates range from one to two million people fled to Taiwan). Maybe there was an error in translation, or maybe the DA isn’t all that up on Chinese history, but “forcible removal” is an odd way to put it.

Chiang Kai-shek’s ROC seat of government had been moved to Taipei, and the Nationalist mainlanders predominately held government posts, etc. The mainlanders weren’t exactly loved, though. Sorry it’s the dreaded Wiki, but:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/February_28_incident

So his childhood there may not have been fun, but that doesn’t mean he’s pro-CCP and anti-ROC, just that his childhood there was during a nasty period.

Really, the news outlets trying to paint him as a CCP “nationalist” when his family was ROC and he was born on Taiwan... weird.


20 posted on 05/16/2022 4:02:31 PM PDT by CatHerd (Whoever said "All's fair in love and war" probably never participated in either.)
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