[DoughtyOne]

Heaven’s what a moron’s paradise some of these threads have
become.

Let’s review:

Q: Why did Russia invade the Ukraine?

A: Because the Ukraine was going to join NATO

1. Why didn’t Russia invade Latvia and Estonia who are
already NATO members. They are on Russia’s border.
They’ve been members for some time now.

2. Did Russia take down the Ukraine’s government? Why not.
They said they wanted to join NATO? They’re just a bunch
of NAZIs according to Russia. So why not?

A: Because the Ukraine had biolabs, a dire threat to
Russia.

1. Did Russia capture and destroy the devastatingly
dangerous biolabs? Well no.

A: NAZIs. The Ukraine was full of NAZIs.

1. Did Russia capture all of the Ukraine to rid it of the
NAZI threat? Well no.

Q: What did Russia do in the Ukraine? What major
accomplishment did it achieve?

A: It captured all the land that was over or had access to
the underwater AZOV gas preserves. It’s a massive preserve.

1. I had to look up that region. While looking for maps
of the region, I stumbled across the map of the AZOV gas
preserves. They match identically with the territory on
the south of the Ukraine that Russia just occupied.

2. Mariupol was dead center of that region. That’s why it
had to be taken over. They couldn’t leave it in the hands
of the Ukraine.

None of these facts need be derived from the media of the
West. It’s as transparent as it can be.

The history of the USSR and Russia using the NAZI slander
to justify their actions goes back 70 years. They’ve used
it over and over. Here they have again.

Sweden and Finland didn’t pursue joining NATO until after
Russia invaded the Ukraine in 2014. They recognized it as
an uncalled for act of aggression.

Seeing Russia building for war again, both seem to be
on the verge of telling NATO they want to join. I don’t
find that to be unreasoned.

Now, finding things a lot tougher than they thought they
would be in the Ukraine, Russia is blustering about using
nukes on the Ukraine and perhaps the West.

Is that the media of the West saying that. Do we only have
Biden’s or Soros’ word on that. No! Every day one or
another of the Russian leadership threatens to nuke the
West.

Now they are supposedly threatening Elan Musk too. I don’t
have proof of that. We don’t have proof of why Russia
really went into the Ukraine either, since it didn’t
address a single thing they used for an excuse to go in.

You guys want to believe what you want to believe.

I’m certain that if the U. S. gets nuked out of this, you
guys will say we had it coming.

I’ve witnessed Russian propaganda for over 55 years. This
looks just like all the rest I have seen.

Now we have some of our citizens on the righ5t championing
anything Russia wants to do.

“Hey, Russia had really good reasons.” Utter nonsense.

Hundreds of thousands of refugees. Many dead. Russian
soldiers dead. A lot of Russian equipment destroyed.
Seeming attacks inside Russia.

Has it been worth it? Well, some folks are certain it was.

I don’t live there. I do have sympathy for all the death
and destruction that has taken place over no more than
some flimsy excuses Russia failed to confirm by their
actions. For the record, I don’t like seeing Russians
killed either. The Western Media didn’t have to tell me
this.

You guys know it

[noiseman]

Russia had rational reasons for invading Ukraine. I’m not saying that what they did was right (it wasn’t), nor that it was the wisest decision (definitely not), but simply that there was a logic to it. NATO and the EU have been pushing way too hard for years now to keep expanding both entities right up to Russia’s doorstep. And then there’s the addition of the tyrannical globalist element. The globalists are clearly on a mission to lock the last remaining muscular independent nations into their evil global prison they’re trying to build. To accomplish that, they have to bring Russia and the U.S., in particular, down several notches. They will leave China alone for now because its belligerence serves the first purpose, but once Russia and the U.S. are absorbed, they’ll turn on China as well.

I think Putin realizes the danger posed by the globalists, and is determined to preempt them by building a defensive buffer and by maintaining a large nuclear arsenal. On the other side of the coin, though, Russia should stop to think about why there is such a large defensive alliance to their west in the first place. NATO exists because of Russia’s own tyrannical behavior, and the current incursion into Ukraine is only going to strengthen the globalists’ hand.

So there are no good guys in this conflict, only bad guys of different stripes on every side. Even the U.S., run by this vile, stupid, and illegitimate regime, is in the wrong. The dems are actively trying to provoke Russia into a direct conflict with us, while we continue to funnel weapons to Ukraine, weapons that cannot result in a Ukrainian victory (which is impossible), and can therefore only cause prolonged destruction and bloodshed.

It’s absolute madness.

[Skywise]

I just presented an article explaining some of the motives going on.

But then I’m sure you fully support Biden’s version of the events.

[Cronos]

That was a masterful answer.

If you don’t mind, I am going to link to ot, reprint and refer to it as your answer in other threads?

[alexander_busek]

1. Why didn’t Russia invade Latvia and Estonia who are already NATO members. They are on Russia’s border. They’ve been members for some time now.

Not just Latvia and Estonia; the following NATO countries also border Russia:

a. Poland

b. Lithuania

c. Norway

d. Extra points: territorial waters of the U.S.A.

e. Coming soon: Finland!

Regards,

[Justa]

Ukraine was not “going to join NATO”. That issue was resolved already in 2008 when France and Germany both disapproved.

NATO membership applicants must receive unanimous approval by all other NATO members.

[piasa]

Well said. I love how the Putin apologists are not antiwar when Russia invades countries. It reminds me of those in the antinuke crowd who were all for the US imposing a unilateral freeze while the old USSR could build all the nukes it wanted.

[mabarker1]

I’ve witnessed Russian propaganda for over 55 years. This looks just like all the rest I have seen.

Cold War II, The regurgitation.

[DUMBGRUNT]

Hear! Hear!

[Lurker]

Well said.

L