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Ukrainian Agony- The Concealed War
Brighton ^ | May 2022 | Mark Baltaimi

Posted on 05/07/2022 9:18:09 AM PDT by delta7

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To: PIF

Putinistas = Deniers! And we know what should be done with “Deniers”.


21 posted on 05/07/2022 10:44:52 AM PDT by Kinzua (What have we allowed to happen?)
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To: entropy12

Well looks like another big Putinesta reveal


22 posted on 05/07/2022 10:50:49 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: usurper

Faulty analysis. That like waching goes on in San Fran and applying that across the entire US.


23 posted on 05/07/2022 10:54:43 AM PDT by BiglyCommentary
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To: PIF

Wrong again. What was revealed is a bankrupt super=power has no business getting involved in foreign wars. This is one of the main reasons I admire PDJT.

https://usdebtclock.org


24 posted on 05/07/2022 10:56:13 AM PDT by entropy12 (No vaccine can "prevent" infection. Vaccines can help after infection with additional anti-bodies.)
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To: crz

The next step we might see within this war, is the Ukrainians firing upon the bridge connecting the Crimea to Russia. That happens we will get to see how well a tactical nuclear weapon works upon a major city within Western Ukraine.
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Won’t happen, the Ukies have about 12 -16 bridges ( different weight loads) across the Dniepner River which split Ukraine in half from Kiev to the South. Vlad has shown much restraint in not blowing all those bridges, thus isolating the eastern provinces and Donbass.

What would happen to the US if all the bridges collapsed on our Mississippi River? Same would happen to Ukraine, but worse.

That said, Vlad has blown all the the bridges west of Odessa, preventing the Ukies from receiving needed war fuel/ supplies from Romania. Even western MSM reported that, but failed to mention that has been how the Ukies were receiving their war fuel from Romania.

IF, as you say, the Ukies attempt to blow the massive bridges to Crimea, all their Dniepner bridges will be destroyed overnight.Keep your eyes on those Dniepner bridges, when they go, it’s virtually over for the Ukies, and they know it. Vlad still has yet to take his gloves off and tighten the screws.

Fact is Vlad has shown much restraint, and continues to checkmate the Ukies, slowly and costly, but surely.


25 posted on 05/07/2022 11:10:47 AM PDT by delta7
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To: entropy12

Blah blah don’t you people ever get tired of spouting propaganda?


26 posted on 05/07/2022 11:17:46 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Kinzua

“And we know what should be done with “Deniers”.

Explain what should be done.


27 posted on 05/07/2022 11:26:17 AM PDT by crz
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To: crz

They must be made examples of, of course. Denying the narrative cannot be tolerated.


28 posted on 05/07/2022 11:43:46 AM PDT by Kinzua (What have we allowed to happen?)
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To: BiglyCommentary; All

It is really sad, but there is no question conservatives today really do not have direct and detailed enough knowledge, or accurate non-revisionist historical knowledge critical to Eastern European events (or globally), which “set the table” for what we see happening now in the mid 1980’s and into the 1990’s.

As well, the 1980’s and early 1990’s ultimately triggered what was really another high level cold war spat, and semi-kinetic proxy war between the US and Moscow in the former Yugoslavia going into the 2000’s.

It was a convenient and near universal and legendary conservative default belief, but the “blue dress” really was not behind our engagement in Yugoslavia. But that is for another time. (Albeit it should never ha e happened)

The fact that Ukraine was one of the single biggest causes (on multiple fronts, including the rise of Lech Walesa in Poland), in forcing the USSR/CCCP to transition into a Russian Federation with its subordinate CIS, (the plan of which was born no later than 1978-1979), began unfolding in the early 1980’s), helping to cause the USSR’s loss of totalitarian control over the Warsaw Pact, and ultimately resulted in nearly a 120 quiet US friendly ranking Ukrainian KGB and UA-CCP officials from Kiev (and their families being hunted down by RU KGB/FSB and GRU, and murdered.

Most were murdered in UA between 1987 to 1997. A few were murdered abroad (not in UA).

In a nutshell, those UA officials who opposed forced membership in the Kremlin controlled/subordinated CIS were eliminated - before CIS was created, during its formal formation in 1991, and within four to five years after UA had already been forced into the subordinate CIS.

While this was happening, Clinton was fully embracing and supporting all things Kremlin policy, like many “conservatives” across America today, no matter what the Kremlin does.

Early UA efforts to break free from Moscow -

There were actually two significant quiet attempts in UA, really spanning between 1987-1993, and one not so quiet, to try and break from subordination to the Kremlin and.to become independent. These too resulted in more bloodshed and polotocal assassinations, subsequent, and somewhat careful installation of at least quietly Kremlin aligned UA political figures.

Notably, until US President Trump, these have always included pro-Kremlin UA governance over UA resources and strategic materials.

As happened across the Warsaw Pact (and worse in UA) post WWII, from 1991 to 2012, UA was dominated by proactive FSB thuggery, coercion, threat of death, and “Destabilization by Corrupt Methods (DCM).

One of the single greatest problems UA faced through the 1990’s was the direct result of leftist, Pro Kremlin, US administration and politicians (Clinton.and predominantly the DNC).

UA knew the West would give almost anything to Moscow, including near full cooperation on RU domestic and foreign policy within its sphere, and beyond.

At the same time UA desperately needed and sought many relationships with “Western” political leaders, and large corporations, often in violation of its CIS subordination to Moscow.

It is well documented (from Russian sources and Russian documentary), just as they have been all.along across Latin America, the GRU and FSB have long been using well trained terror and assassination operatives (including GRU/FSB trained and funded RU neo-Nazi’s since at least 2007 in UA), as well as global psychological operations against UA. This has only increased in intensity from 1991 to the present.

I ha e seen many videos like this one, where almost none of the actual history, and most of the literal context of past and recent history are near completely missing, where the embrace of the narrative depends on the knowledge of western historical illiteracy, or of the targeted western viewership.

As it is a known variable that human pride does not allow for one to accept they are wrong, when through ignorance the proud embrace propaganda, they can only become arrogant robotic disciples and exponential purveyors of the author’s strategic goal.

Truly sad...


29 posted on 05/07/2022 12:14:53 PM PDT by patriotfury ((May the fleas of a thousand camels occupy mo' ham mads tents!) )
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To: patriotfury

Thak you for that EPIC POST!” Shatters the lies the Putards spew 24/7 and exposes them as cluesless useful idiots doing Russia’s bidding in spreading propaganda.


30 posted on 05/07/2022 12:36:55 PM PDT by BiglyCommentary
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To: BiglyCommentary; All

It is really sad, but there is no question conservatives today really do not have direct and detailed enough knowledge, or accurate non-revisionist historical knowledge critical to Eastern European events (or globally), which “set the table” for what we see happening now back in the mid 1980’s and into the 1990’s.

As well, the 1980’s and early 1990’s ultimately triggered what was really another high level cold war spat, and semi-kinetic proxy war between the US and Moscow in the former Yugoslavia going into the 2000’s.

It was a convenient and near universal and legendary conservative default belief, but the “blue dress” really was not behind our engagement in Yugoslavia. But that is for another time. (Albeit it should never ha e happened)

The fact that Ukraine was one of the single biggest causes (on multiple fronts, including the rise of Lech Walesa in Poland), in forcing the USSR/CCCP to transition into a Russian Federation with its subordinate CIS, (the plan of which was born no later than 1978-1979), began unfolding in the early 1980’s), helping to cause the USSR’s loss of totalitarian control over the Warsaw Pact, and ultimately resulted in nearly a 120 quiet US friendly ranking Ukrainian KGB and UA-CCP officials from Kiev (and their families being hunted down by RU KGB/FSB and GRU, and murdered.

Most were murdered in UA between 1987 to 1997. A few were murdered abroad (not in UA).

In a nutshell, those UA officials who opposed forced membership in the Kremlin controlled/subordinated CIS were eliminated - before CIS was created, during its formal formation in 1991, and within four to five years after UA had already been forced into the subordinate CIS.

While this was happening, Clinton was fully embracing and supporting all things Kremlin policy, like many “conservatives” across America today, no matter what the Kremlin does.

Early UA efforts to break free from Moscow -

There were actually two significant quiet attempts in UA, really spanning between 1987-1993, and one not so quiet, to try and break from subordination to the Kremlin and.to become independent. These too resulted in more bloodshed and polotocal assassinations, subsequent, and somewhat careful installation of at least quietly Kremlin aligned UA political figures.

Notably, until US President Trump, these have always included pro-Kremlin UA governance over UA resources and strategic materials.

As happened across the Warsaw Pact (and worse in UA) post WWII, from 1991 to 2012, UA was dominated by proactive FSB thuggery, coercion, threat of death, and “Destabilization by Corrupt Methods (DCM).

One of the single greatest problems UA faced through the 1990’s was the direct result of leftist, Pro Kremlin, US administration and politicians (Clinton.and predominantly the DNC).

UA knew the West would give almost anything to Moscow, including near full cooperation on RU domestic and foreign policy within its sphere, and beyond.

At the same time UA desperately needed and sought many relationships with “Western” political leaders, and large corporations, often in violation of its CIS subordination to Moscow.

It is well documented (from Russian sources and Russian documentary), just as they have been all.along across Latin America, the GRU and FSB have long been using well trained terror and assassination operatives (including GRU/FSB trained and funded RU neo-Nazi’s since at least 2007 in UA), as well as global psychological operations against UA. This has only increased in intensity from 1991 to the present.

I ha e seen many videos like this one, where almost none of the actual history, and most of the literal context of past and recent history are near completely missing, where the embrace of the narrative depends on the knowledge of western historical illiteracy, or of the targeted western viewership.

As it is a known variable that human pride does not allow for one to accept they are wrong, when through ignorance the proud embrace propaganda, they can only become arrogant robotic disciples and exponential purveyors of the author’s strategic goal.

Truly sad...


31 posted on 05/07/2022 12:54:49 PM PDT by patriotfury ((May the fleas of a thousand camels occupy mo' ham mads tents!) )
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To: PIF

I just watched this. It was well worth it.


32 posted on 05/07/2022 1:14:47 PM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: Kinzua

“They must be made examples of, of course. Denying the narrative cannot be tolerated.”

So how would they be made examples of since they can not be tolerated?


33 posted on 05/07/2022 1:34:01 PM PDT by crz
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To: delta7
and continues to checkmate the Ukies, slowly and costly, but surely.

That talking point seems to re-surface every time Putin's invasion of Ukraine and destruction of the homes of many innocent people stalls out. I guess we are seeing some kind of 9D checkers where getting your army mauled and your ships sunk is the path to victory.

Supposedly Putin's plan for the Donbass battle was to encircle the Ukrainians and defeat them. The Russians have succeeded in moving forward about 25 miles on both sides of their attack in an effort to surround an area about the size of Connecticut since they started their attack.

Today they are actually losing some of that territory, and Ukrainian artillery shells are landing within about 1/2 mile of Izium. Such a military success! Their troops will be under Ukrainian artillery barrages in a day or so in the place they counted on to launch the rest of their attack from.

Have a look for yourself at the fires started by Ukrainian artillery shells.

34 posted on 05/07/2022 3:11:27 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: BiglyCommentary; All

Regardless of outcome and pure accuracy, you might really find the following interview very worthwhile—

https://youtu.be/1acSyiWzN8M

I know, coming from CBC I am still in near total shock...

Great interview!

Hope Mr Milov is still alive in a few months.

Guaranteed FSB, GRU, SVR, MSS, and likely certain black hat MI6, CIA & NSA (doing the real bidding of the Obama/Biden/Clinton Moscow-Bejing manchurian type puppet continuum), will hunt Mr Milov down, as they have many before.

Mr Milov was in Putins inner circle.

That is what you call “toast dust”, probably from a mobile crematorium.


35 posted on 05/07/2022 3:16:57 PM PDT by patriotfury ((May the fleas of a thousand camels occupy mo' ham mads tents!) )
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To: patriotfury

Great interview. Hexsaid what I am been repeadedly saying. Sanctions are hitting hard and be devastating as time goes on, Russian is a 98 lb ecomonic weakling right now, Putin has to bluff, oil and gas output from Russia has dived quite a bit. He mentioned how the head of the Soviet Space agency gave a talk 9 years ago how Russia would lose a direct war against the US in 6 HOURS due to a huge number of Russia weaknesses across the spectrum.


36 posted on 05/07/2022 4:43:45 PM PDT by BiglyCommentary
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