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FDA limits use of J&J COVID vaccine due to blood clot risk
Axios ^ | May 5, 2022 | Ivana Saric

Posted on 05/05/2022 2:52:25 PM PDT by Republicans 2016 2020

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To: Republicans 2016 2020

I’m glad I am part of the vaccine control group.


21 posted on 05/05/2022 3:26:23 PM PDT by IAGeezer912 (One out of every 20 people on the face of the earth are Americans. We have won life's lottery.)
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To: ifinnegan
Yep, the data shows the J&J recipients had lower mortality than mRNA or unvaccinated. That was mostly based on lower risk of fatal heart attacks. My theory is if the J&J doesn't kill you it makes you stronger.

Effectiveness against COVID was probably minimal. The mortality study looked at all causes including COVID, but obviously only short term mortality. In the long term only God knows.

22 posted on 05/05/2022 3:26:58 PM PDT by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways from Sunday)
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To: palmer

I’m traveling and will need a booster. Already took one JJ shot. What to do?


23 posted on 05/05/2022 3:30:36 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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To: Republican Wildcat

I’m not a biochemist but I’ve read plenty that doesn’t align with your statement.

https://www.vcuhealth.org/news/covid-19/johnson-and-johnson-vaccine-how-is-it-different

“Instead of using mRNA, the Johnson & Johnson vaccine uses a disabled adenovirus to deliver the instructions. This adenovirus is in no way related to the coronavirus. It is a completely different virus. Although it can deliver the instructions on how to defeat the coronavirus, it can’t replicate in your body and will not give you a viral infection.”

It’s the more traditional approach to a vaccine, so I don’t believe it creates “the same mRNA” that is in the mRNA shots.


24 posted on 05/05/2022 3:32:19 PM PDT by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: RatRipper

I took no shots and never got covid.


25 posted on 05/05/2022 3:41:02 PM PDT by roving
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To: RatRipper

The VAERS report on my batch of J&J lists 36 deaths.


26 posted on 05/05/2022 3:50:56 PM PDT by Aria
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To: Republican Wildcat

“All this time later and people are still saying this.

It is DNA - it goes in and *adds* DNA to the nucleus which then has the cell itself produce the very same mRNA - indefinitely - until the cell dies”

Well assuming correct, I’m still here and a vast majority more folks as a percentage that took J&J over Pfizer as well.


27 posted on 05/05/2022 3:52:23 PM PDT by DAC21
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To: fuzzylogic

Maybe people want him to lose because he’s a creep, a phony, and liar. Just spitballin....


Sadly, not true. The only way it (mRNA and J&J injections) can provide an immune response is to produce, in the human body, enough copies of the spike protein for your immune system to notice. And that is, roughly speaking, enough to increase the risk of clots, and therefore, heart attacks. As long as the infected cells stay alive and infected, spike protein manufacture continues And when these cells divide, you get two infected cells, not zero or one. And the DNA or mRNA inside the cell can and does exit the cell to infect more cells, usually when the infected cell dies.
Only way to determine how often that happens are long-term studies looking for this result.


28 posted on 05/05/2022 3:56:23 PM PDT by bIlluminati (Demonetize the Left. Buy nothing from them. Sell nothing to them. Shun them.)
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To: Aria

So, top five in the J&J death hit parade. As I recall, tied for second/third.


29 posted on 05/05/2022 3:58:01 PM PDT by bIlluminati (Demonetize the Left. Buy nothing from them. Sell nothing to them. Shun them.)
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To: bIlluminati

Jabbed in March 21. Then I was in ER 3 times, once in September and twice in January 2022, with a fast heartbeat that apparently was caused but dehydration...but that never happened before. Got 2 D-Dimer tests and had to wear a heart monitor for a few days. They say I’m fine. For months I was taking everything I could that is recommended to detox from the spike - ivermectin, quercertin, zinc, NAC tons of vitamins, things for my blood vessels etc. Got COVID in February anyway but ok now.


30 posted on 05/05/2022 4:47:46 PM PDT by Aria
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To: DIRTYSECRET
I’m traveling and will need a booster. Already took one JJ shot. What to do?

Wish I could tell you definitively. My friend and I got the J&J last May. He's about 70. In November his liberal friends convinced him to get a booster. Don't remember which but it was Moderna or Pfizer. It literally knocked him flat on the floor for a couple hours. He eventually got back to normal (which means his normal semi-disabled self), but it took a week or two.

If it's possible, find a second J&J with a doc who sees the need for a matching shot. Otherwise get the German guy who took 60 shots for other people to take yours.

31 posted on 05/05/2022 7:16:02 PM PDT by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways from Sunday)
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To: fuzzylogic
It’s the more traditional approach to a vaccine, so I don’t believe it creates “the same mRNA” that is in the mRNA shots.

I believe it's the same, but It's certainly not the same amount over time. I had antibody tests done twice after J&J (plus one before the shot). The first antibody test was negative, and IIRC that was after two weeks. The mRNA shots would have shown antibodies by then.

My hunch is that whatever it produces is lower and slower than the direct mRNA shots.

32 posted on 05/05/2022 7:19:50 PM PDT by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways from Sunday)
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To: blackdog

When the VA gave my J&J vax in March of 2021, I was told that it was safe and effective and I wouldn’t neither get or be able to transmit the disease. I was told that I’ll never need another vaccine. I was not informed about the risk of blood clots. Now I’m informed I need 2 jabs of the mRNA vaccine. Would anyone be surprised if I were to say that I’m skeptical?


33 posted on 05/06/2022 7:33:31 AM PDT by Captain Compassion (I'm just sayin')
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To: Republicans 2016 2020

As expected.


34 posted on 05/06/2022 7:38:23 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: Captain Compassion

Define “Need”? Who’s need?


35 posted on 05/06/2022 7:39:55 AM PDT by blackdog (Today's "disinformation" most often turns out to be tomorrow's facts. )
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To: blackdog

Need according to “the science.”


36 posted on 05/06/2022 8:08:55 AM PDT by Captain Compassion (I'm just sayin')
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To: 1Old Pro

This FDA move needs to be asked about at the Whitehouse Pressers.


37 posted on 05/06/2022 8:45:37 AM PDT by blackdog (Disinformer and Deplorable because I do my own thinking. )
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To: blackdog
This FDA move needs to be asked about at the Whitehouse Pressers.

A forced vaccine that is killing people really doesn't rise to the level of a WH question. Women are suffering out there, and as Hillary says, who will they target next?

38 posted on 05/06/2022 8:49:38 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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