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Elon, you have no idea what the hell you’re talking about
Techcrunch ^ | April 26, 2022 | Devin Coldewey

Posted on 05/03/2022 12:32:51 PM PDT by hadit2here

Elon Musk is embarrassing himself on the global stage again by proudly bruiting a grade-school level of familiarity with the immensely complex concepts of free speech, censorship, rights and privileges of individuals and government authorities. The fact that this aggressively ignorant person is likely to take over one of the largest communication platforms on Earth should scare the shit out of you.

Here is what the richest man in the world said earlier today, on the platform he intends to acquire:

By ‘free speech,’ I simply mean that which matches the law. I am against censorship that goes far beyond the law. If people want less free speech, they will ask government to pass laws to that effect. Therefore, going beyond the law is contrary to the will of the people.

Elon’s got one thing going for him. He has demonstrated an apparently innate facility to pack more willful and privileged ignorance into a single sentence than almost anyone on the planet.

These statements are so fundamentally wrong — factually, ethically, practically, and in every other way, that I hardly know where to begin.

For one thing, he might want to look at the most elementary descriptions of what constitutes free speech and censorship. Censorship is when state authorities limit the speech of the people under their power. Free speech is the guarantee that no action defined as speech is illegal outside a few harmful examples, like harassment, hate speech and other special cases (under constant negotiation) that we as a society have decided constitute or exacerbate crimes.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 1984; devincoldewey; elonmusk; liberalmeltdown; mediawingofthednc; musk; partisanmediashill; partisanmediashills; ronklain; seattle; truthsocial; twitter
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To: hadit2here

“Presumably he (meaning Elon) means “censorship” such as moderation by private actors like companies, which isn’t censorship (only governments can be censors) but actually, by definition and legal precedent, an expression of free speech by those companies.”

Rather than waste thousands of words on what technically means what, I will just sum it up concisely. Musk didn’t like the way the Owners of Twitter were exercising their free speech by restricting conservative speech. So he bought the company and now HE owns Twitter and the company will exercise it’s free speech as MUSK sees fit. That’s not so hard to understand now is it?


81 posted on 05/03/2022 1:33:44 PM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (I went to bed on November 3rd 2020 and woke up in 1984.)
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To: hadit2here

Beauty of a reply!!!

Not short, but thorough!


82 posted on 05/03/2022 1:35:22 PM PDT by Alas Babylon! (Rush, we're missing your take on all of this!)
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To: hadit2here

Pretentious...

Does he think a photo of him drinking is cool?


83 posted on 05/03/2022 1:36:42 PM PDT by Alas Babylon! (Rush, we're missing your take on all of this!)
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To: hadit2here

I looked up this author, Devin Coldeway. He prides himself on being an author and a photographer. Yes, some do that better than others, but when it comes down to it, we are all writers and photographers.

On the other hand, I doubt anyone on this forum, wonderful as it may be, can do what Elon Musk does.


84 posted on 05/03/2022 1:38:49 PM PDT by keats5
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To: hadit2here

Free speech is simple. It’s the freedom to say what you think. Communists make free speech complicated by punishing free thought.


85 posted on 05/03/2022 1:41:33 PM PDT by DeplorablePaul
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To: hadit2here

Even a 5th grader understands free speech. It takes a college degree to unlearn it.


86 posted on 05/03/2022 1:42:04 PM PDT by WASCWatch ( WASC)
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To: rockrr
Whatever talents, ambitions, or intents Mr. Musk has he couldn’t possibly mishandle twitter more than the current management has done.

Sincerely,

Sane America

Exactly right.

87 posted on 05/03/2022 1:42:57 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: hadit2here

> Free speech is the guarantee that no action defined as speech is illegal outside a few harmful examples, like harassment, hate speech

“Hate speech” is legal.


88 posted on 05/03/2022 1:43:35 PM PDT by ArcadeQuarters (Remember the 2020 backstabbers. No more RINOs ever!)
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To: hadit2here

Okay Devin. Let it all out. Take a deep breath and embrace your impotency. Scream if you need to, because you will not stop Musk from remaking Twitter the way he chooses. The only thing you are doing is disclosing to the world that you are a pedantic nonce.


89 posted on 05/03/2022 1:43:45 PM PDT by Savage Rider
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To: rlmorel
No kidding...the longer I read, the more I could visualize the sneering, Leftist face and the whiny ignorant voice.

A nobody with pretensions of grandeur.

How many selfies did he take before he got that one right????

A lot of millenials spend a lot of time posing. 4 tries tops.

90 posted on 05/03/2022 1:45:18 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: hadit2here

“ignorance”??

That is a BRILLIANT assessment of leftist overreach to prevent people from exercising constitutionally protected rights. (Note that I didn’t say rights GIVEN to us by the Constitution. These are given to us by God.)


91 posted on 05/03/2022 1:45:36 PM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing obamacare is worse than obamacare itself)
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To: Freedom4US

Yeah, Clinton tried to blame Rush for Oklahoma by implying he created an atmosphere of hate. So by extension, questioning anything Democrats do is hate. It’s fear that they really want, and they have developed many ways of generating and perpetuating it. Anyone not living under that fear is hateful. A racist, a bigot, and so forth.


92 posted on 05/03/2022 1:46:07 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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To: hadit2here

> I hardly know where to begin.

That’s because you are nowhere. You are a pseudo-intellectual. You are full of yourself and full of s-—. You are a fool, spewing hokum and making s-— up.


93 posted on 05/03/2022 1:46:19 PM PDT by old-ager
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To: hadit2here

> Censorship is when state authorities limit the speech of the people under their power

Yup and that is what has happened with Twitter and Fakebook. Nasty inside connections to rogues in the government.

Govt response to free speech is the proof, if any is needed.


94 posted on 05/03/2022 1:47:34 PM PDT by old-ager
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To: hadit2here; humblegunner; All

By the way, I almost feel like complaining that this was even posted.

But I’ll leave that to the resident a—hole.


95 posted on 05/03/2022 1:48:59 PM PDT by old-ager
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To: DiogenesLamp

LOL...four time loser!


96 posted on 05/03/2022 1:50:10 PM PDT by rlmorel (Democrats running things is termite infestation, and the exterminator won't be here for 3 years.)
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To: hadit2here

Very good- send that to him. It was much better than his actual article.

Freedom of speech does not mean only speech he agrees with.

In fact it is ONLY speech that he disagrees with that needs protection... from people like him.


97 posted on 05/03/2022 1:51:13 PM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing obamacare is worse than obamacare itself)
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To: cdcdawg

Hate speech is whatever the left say it is, that’s the issue why do they have so much power?


98 posted on 05/03/2022 1:51:43 PM PDT by Striperman (Striperman)
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To: bk1000

The author of this Article has the god given right to make a complete ass of himself in the public realm. The 1st amendment guarantees his right to utter any stupid thing which should come out of his mouth. I would give my life to protect his right to expound his drivel. Anyone who thinks the government has a right to create laws curtailing our speech doesn’t understand the phrase a government of the people, by the people, for the people.


99 posted on 05/03/2022 1:54:02 PM PDT by Western Patriot (Give me liberty or give me death.)
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To: Telepathic Intruder
"...So by extension, questioning anything Democrats do is hate..."

This Lima Tango (Leftist Turd) states:

"...Free speech is the guarantee that no action defined as speech is illegal outside a few harmful examples, like harassment, hate speech and other special cases (under constant negotiation) that we as a society have decided constitute or exacerbate crimes..."

Ah. It is the "..."we as a society" have decided constitute or exacerbate crimes..." that we should focus on.

Just who is the "we as society" you speak of, Kemosabe?

100 posted on 05/03/2022 1:56:46 PM PDT by rlmorel (Democrats running things is termite infestation, and the exterminator won't be here for 3 years.)
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