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US won’t rule out military action if China establishes base in Solomon Islands
https://www.theguardian.com ^ | Kate Lyons | 25 Apr 2022

Posted on 04/26/2022 5:46:04 PM PDT by RomanSoldier19

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To: 98charlie

I will tell you this the beginning: I am unabashedly pro-American... but that is because I am American, born-and-bred, my family has roots going back over a century, my wife and children have roots going back to when the United States were British colonies. Were for some reason I were born in Russian or China, I would be unabashedly so as well.

So, let me give you a thought-experiment: suppose the West had lost the Cold War, and the USSR was the dominant force in Europe. Suppose the USSR had expanded the Warsaw Pact to Cuba, and was on the cusp of inviting Mexico. Now remember, the Warsaw Pact was a purely defensive pact, same as NATO. Would you sleep soundly in your bed knowing that nuclear weapons were 15-minutes from Miami, less than an hour from the East Coast?

Would you accept a 2,000 mile front-line on your very borders and first-strike capacity within an hour of your Capitol? Because that is precisely what you are expecting Russia to accept with the admittance of Ukraine to NATO (approximately 1500 miles).

No country that considers itself a world power would accept that.


81 posted on 04/26/2022 8:20:12 PM PDT by Namyak (Oderint dum metuant)
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To: RomanSoldier19

Such a great idea letting these progressive clowns steal the election.


82 posted on 04/26/2022 8:22:19 PM PDT by VTenigma (Conspiracy theory is the new "spoiler alert")
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To: RomanSoldier19

Such a great idea letting these progressive clowns steal the election.


83 posted on 04/26/2022 8:22:19 PM PDT by VTenigma (Conspiracy theory is the new "spoiler alert")
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To: cuz1961

What were they thinking asking China for help ?


Maybe they took a good look at what a dumpster fire this country has turned into lately and thought it might be prudent to go a different direction.

P.S. your list above is spot on.


84 posted on 04/26/2022 8:41:42 PM PDT by VTenigma (Conspiracy theory is the new "spoiler alert")
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To: Rusty0604

Our biggest enemy and security threat is in the WH.


^This 100%


85 posted on 04/26/2022 8:49:20 PM PDT by VTenigma (Conspiracy theory is the new "spoiler alert")
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To: NorseViking

“while China didn’t invade anyone in decades.”

Not since the Viet Namese kicked the snot out of them anyway.

L


86 posted on 04/26/2022 8:53:28 PM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Can’t figure out why Prime Minister Sogavare of Solomons thinks it is a good idea?

MONEY. China can bribe and others can’t, not directly for the benefit of the PM. Oh sure, lots of aid money and such but no boxes of cash, gold or silver for the PM.

This is another one of those things that has trouble written all over it. The Solomons are strategic now just as they were in WWII. You probably do recall that Guadalcanal is one of the Solomon Islands that the First Marine Division fought so hard to win. Seems the people and especially the PM of the Solomons have forgotten all about that. For sale then and for sale now? Probably.


87 posted on 04/26/2022 9:02:38 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Politicians are only marginally good at one thing, being politicians. Otherwise they are fools.)
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To: Namyak

Your points are valid.


88 posted on 04/26/2022 9:15:59 PM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: Namyak

I understand why Russia has a problem with NATO at its door step, but the fact is that NATO was not going to invade Russia and Ukraine by itself was not a threat to invade Russia. If they chose to do so Russia could wipe Ukraine off of the map. I realize there were or are strategic reasons behind Russias invasion of Ukraine many that we the public don’t know or understand. However China in the Solomons is a whole different ball game. They have absolutely zero reason to be there other than to further their plans for domination of the Pacific.


89 posted on 04/26/2022 9:16:18 PM PDT by 98charlie
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To: RomanSoldier19

Refusing to rule out military action is standard for a competent negotiating team. No big deal. If Biden had done that with Putin instead of preemptively surrendering the option, Ukraine might look different today. The problem here is that the US and Australia have failed to take care of business in the Pacific archipelago, attending to the interests of these strategic islands, and now are in the pathetic position of trying to make up for past foreign policy failure. Good luck convincing the president of the Solomons to unwind the deal with China after the fact. Fat chance, Blinken you imbecile.


90 posted on 04/26/2022 9:46:08 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the narrative.)
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To: Sequoyah101

Sadly, I’d imagine you’re right.

China seems to have the cash to push these things through,
and I’m not sure we can keep up in the long term.

If some financial crunch doesn’t take a bite out of China,
things are going to get very rocky over the coming years.

We have our faults, but I pitty the planet if China continues
to rise. It’s very tough on its own people, so other shouldn’t
be too surprised when they go rogue on them.


91 posted on 04/26/2022 9:50:47 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance the flag of the U S of A, and to the REPUBLIC for which it stands.)
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To: 98charlie

I will concede the point; Russia (vis-a-vis Ukraine) and China are not the same. If you want my opinion, Russia is a fortifying power, trying to keep its place in the world, whilst China is an expansionist power, trying to expand its place in the world.

The crux is that both are agitating at the same time due to geopolitical straits they find themselves in. Russia, in the next 20 years, baring something unforeseen, will likely become a strong regional power with a potent nuclear arsenal, not a world power as they have been... China, in the next 20 years, will simply implode unless they can find women and material outside their current borders.

It’s a dangerous time, fraught with peril, and my fear is that our current leadership is not up to the task.


92 posted on 04/26/2022 9:53:15 PM PDT by Namyak (Oderint dum metuant)
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To: NorseViking

So to fight Biden and the so called Globohomo you are going to ally with ACTUAL Communists like Vladimir Putin, Xi Jinping, Kim Jung Un and Castro, and Islamic radicals like Ayatollah Khanemi? That is stupid and dangerous, and will end up with billions dead or enslaved.


93 posted on 04/27/2022 6:55:13 AM PDT by Thunder90 (All posts soley represent my own opinion.)
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