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To: conservative98

Finally, Levin called for Americans to follow the principles outlined in our Constitution and Declaration of Independence and reject “dangerous ideologies” like nationalism and Marxism.


2 posted on 04/24/2022 7:17:03 PM PDT by conservative98
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Mark Levin: I believe in ‘America First’

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkKqQNN0Gi0

Mark Levin breaks down what it means for someone to believe in ‘America First.’


3 posted on 04/24/2022 7:18:44 PM PDT by conservative98
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What’s wrong with nationalism?


8 posted on 04/24/2022 7:25:14 PM PDT by BenLurkin ((The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire. Or both.))
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To: conservative98

I don’t see him rejecting nationalism here. Certainly rejecting Marx.

I would see him rejecting extreme isolationism, akin to those who wouldn’t have bothered with Hitler bc he was a “European problem.”

He specifically rejects direct military engagement in Ukraine. No American soldiers there.

He supports very robust aid.

I think that’s wise. Helps keep European problems European.

I tend


18 posted on 04/24/2022 7:33:49 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: conservative98
reject “dangerous ideologies” like nationalism and Marxism.

The dangerous ideology is globalism, the notion that you can and should over-ride culture and the nation state built on culture in the name of global "democracy" run by a bunch of marxo-fascist elites who think they have the power to cancel people who don't believe in whatever perversion that globalists are pushing.

We are on the brink of nuclear war because of that and yet can't stop ourselves.

51 posted on 04/24/2022 8:11:32 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: conservative98
Nationalism as defined in my 1954 American Family and School Dictionary"


53 posted on 04/24/2022 8:12:51 PM PDT by Dalberg-Acton
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To: conservative98
Levin's analysis is muddled. Nationalism is a valid and organic part of American history, expressed at the time of America's founding in a belief in America as new and exceptional, destined to expand and become a great nation in the world.

Notably, the terms nation and national appear frequently in the Federalist Papers. The sense that bears most directly on Levin's argument is of America's national interest as referring to the country's collective interest as opposed to the interests of particular states and factions.

To be fair to Levin, I think that he is challenging nationalism as a basis for a narrow view of America's role in the world. Strongly pro-Ukraine, Levin is opposed to the isolationism that has now emerged as a strong sentiment on the Right in opposing aid to Ukraine.

The stronger approach for Levin and Ukraine's advocates is not to fashion a dispute over American history and the meaning of nationalism but to point out that, when a hostile autocracy that is one of the world's major nuclear powers goes on a tear against a neighbor and endangers core American allies, America's interests are implicated. If nothing else, we want the friendly democracy to win and our allies to be safe and secure. We are bound by honor and interest to deliver help toward those ends.

Unfortunately, some on the Right have gone from a sense of dislike of Biden and prudence as to what we do to help Ukraine into an embrace of isolationism and deference toward Putin and Russia. For all the risks of aid to Ukraine, there is an outsize potential benefit from a Russian defeat: Putin's ouster and the evolution of Russia toward democracy and alignment with the US and Europe.

If that occurred, it would do much to curb turmoil in the Mideast and the threat from China. In sum, there is good reason to see Ukraine's fight as our fight as well.

62 posted on 04/24/2022 8:38:20 PM PDT by Rockingham
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Commonalities between Levin haters on this thread and the earlier one:

1) Don’t listen to the show or haven’t listened in years
2) Love them some Trump— beyond all reason. (did y’all get your Trump-boosters?)
3) A pinch of Jew-hatred.

That’s a fact.


72 posted on 04/24/2022 8:59:57 PM PDT by Phinneous (By the way, there are Seven Laws for you too! Noahide.org)
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