I don’t think either had big plans to join NATO even a few
years back.
When Putin when in the first time, it was seen as very
problematic.
Now he’s done it again.
People like to talk about how bad Russia has had it in former
wars. What they ignore is that European nations have seen
this same song and dance before, and it generally precedes
worse things just ahead.
I agree with you.
Should be satellite imagery upcoming. Sank or not sank won’t need to wait for any report.
Surprised a 1983 ship is “flagship”, which means the commanding Admiral is aboard, regardless of size when there are 2017 era frigates around. You would think the Admiral would be on those with superior comms.