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Russia's ageing navy still packs a deadly punch
Reuters ^ | November 11, 2008 | Dmitry Solovyov

Posted on 04/13/2022 2:12:42 PM PDT by marktwain

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To: Mr Ramsbotham

To be fair, look at Russian history. They get invaded by a lot of people that were ostensibly “friendly” or that were a defensive pact.


21 posted on 04/13/2022 3:17:21 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

I was in Seattle in 1990. After the Berlin Wall, but before Yeltsin. But the writing was on the wall for the USSR. A Russian navy ship was docked north of the Public Market. For some reason, the crew could not disembark. But a huge crowd of American had gathered and the sailors and Americans were trading by tossing stuff back and forth. Candy bars, winter jackets, toilet paper would get thrown up over the rail of the ship and sailors would throw Russian stuff back. I bought a new pair of Nikes, threw it up and got a fur lined military cap that I still have. There was a huge amount of good will back then. All squandered now.


22 posted on 04/13/2022 3:21:47 PM PDT by Poison Pill
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To: Poison Pill

In what port city did this interesting exchange take place?


23 posted on 04/13/2022 3:25:13 PM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (To the barricades !!!)
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To: Monterrosa-24

Seattle


24 posted on 04/13/2022 3:27:40 PM PDT by Poison Pill
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To: Monterrosa-24

Strange question


25 posted on 04/13/2022 3:30:30 PM PDT by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: Poison Pill

Thanks, I flunked reading on that one. I’ve heard some similar stories. It seemed during the Yeltsin time tenure that Russia would be a cat’s PJs friend to the US. Even the early Putin went to Solzhenitsyn’s funeral, but I don’t think he would attend such an event today.


26 posted on 04/13/2022 3:32:33 PM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (To the barricades !!!)
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To: marktwain

She sleeps with the fishes.


27 posted on 04/13/2022 3:35:31 PM PDT by BiglyCommentary
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To: skeeter

Yes, considering that there’s more than a couple private (non-government) photosats sitting over the area right now.


28 posted on 04/13/2022 3:41:36 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: marktwain

After Sean Connery left they sank ...


29 posted on 04/13/2022 3:42:11 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Poison Pill
A lot of Russians are great people, as you see around the world.

I hate to see the people being killed on both sides. It seems such a stupid war.

I see unthinking people cheering when a Russian tank explodes, killing everyone inside. Yes, a price is being paid... I hope all of them know Jesus.

On the other hand, there is a global conspiracy to make us all slaves with digital currency, completely tracked and controlled.

And those people seem to be on the side of Ukraine, at least on the surface.

30 posted on 04/13/2022 4:03:30 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: Flash Bazbeaux

Yep. Now, new lessons to learn...


31 posted on 04/13/2022 4:07:06 PM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: GreyHoundSailor

Boy, are you naive.

“Them cross eyed Japs could never...” etc.


32 posted on 04/13/2022 4:10:23 PM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Lurker

I disagree. There is no more hiding in the big wide ocean in 2022. The Pacific is just as finite as Lake Erie to modern sensors.


33 posted on 04/13/2022 4:11:24 PM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

The next big war will be fought by robots. Miniaturized.


34 posted on 04/13/2022 4:13:29 PM PDT by Bookshelf
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To: MercyFlush

Luck plays a big part. A hit in a magazine or a hit in crew berthing.

More than half of the American-made 500LB bombs the Argies planted deep into British warships in the Falklands war failed to detonate.

If they had, and had ten or so British warships been sunk or put out of action, history might have been a bit different.

There is still so much to learn. Plus, who fired the “Neptune missiles?” Really?

It’s a proxy war, after all.


35 posted on 04/13/2022 4:13:54 PM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

I suppose we’ll see what really happened. I’m a little skeptical for the moment still just because in my lifetime Russian Naval losses were most often self-inflicted.

I’m still not sold that the Ukes sunk the ship at Berdyansk, either. A dockside munitions event feels more likely to me.


36 posted on 04/13/2022 4:29:07 PM PDT by MercyFlush (The Soviet Empire is right now doing a dead cat bounce.)
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To: marktwain

I just read there was a rescue mission ongoing.


37 posted on 04/13/2022 4:31:31 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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I just read there was a rescue mission ongoing.

That makes it sound more real...

38 posted on 04/13/2022 4:35:12 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

It looks like a destroyer, not a cruiser…


39 posted on 04/13/2022 4:37:19 PM PDT by wny ( )
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To: marktwain

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40 posted on 04/13/2022 4:39:50 PM PDT by sauropod (So may we start? It's time to start.)
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