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THE TWO BLUNDERS THAT CAUSED THE UKRAINE WAR
US - Ukraine Business Council ^ | Tunku Varadarajan

Posted on 04/09/2022 8:34:47 AM PDT by KC Burke

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To: aquila48
From a certain point of view, that’s a true statement.

President Trumps’ successes were more from his work than from what Congress did.

I wonder how many in Congress are “owned” by or in some way beholden to Putin and/or Xi and/or ??, because Putin or someone was able to run rings around President Trump, so to speak.

And then, that same someone removed him from office in 2020 and replaced him with Senators.

Since then, pretty much every single thing senators Biden and Harris have done has benefited Putin, Xi, the taliban, etc., while also hurting us here at home.

Someone is winning and it ain’t us and so I wonder who’s really winning in Ukraine and elsewhere now, too.

I guess we’ll have to wait and see.

41 posted on 04/09/2022 9:46:21 AM PDT by GBA (Endeavor to persevere)
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To: V_TWIN
His response “putin didn’t invade Ukraine when Trump was POTUS because they are buddies”. How do you respond to that level of stupidity and blind hatred?

Why with facts. Leftards hate facts, such as, Trump didn’t even blink when it came to killing russians in Syria. And, Trump’s energy policy made it impossible for pooty to use Russian oil as leverage.

Feel free to keep those in you back pocket next time you have the unfortunate experience of talking to a filthy commie.

42 posted on 04/09/2022 9:49:09 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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To: foundedonpurpose
NATO aside, which by treaty, they agreed to not enter.

Are you quite sure about that? In what treaty did Ukraine agree not to join NATO, or did NATO promise to never accept Ukraine?

43 posted on 04/09/2022 9:57:24 AM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: rrrod; All
Putin definitely worked with the Democrats on the smear campaign against Trump, with the media’s help. Putin is grateful to have Biden.

These are the critical missing pieces. This war occurred because of Biden's corruption and political weakness.

Putin is as corrupt as Biden but he maintains an aura of the Czar which grants him permission to rule with an iron fist. Biden's is a marshmallow glove. He has no punch, only persistently corrupt policies and procedures.

Biden is a sock puppet for Obama whose staff run the WH. Putting Biden's personality on Obama's policies has not been effective for the Democrats. Biden is not likeable. Obama is charming, demonic but charming. Biden is simply evil. There is no power, no strength in Biden.

Putin's putative belief that he ran circles around Trump is what kept him in line. Putin never trusted Trump. So he never crossed Trump.

Putin has treated Biden like a frightened puppy. He has run roughshod over Biden and made the US a laughing stock on the world stage.

Russia/Ukraine is a civil was between the Hatfields and the McCoys. Neither side is principled. Both are criminal at heart. Laying waste to their people and infrastructure is of little consequence to either side.

Taking sides for the EU and US is a fool's errand. Ukraine will fail because they will die to the last man and Russia has more men.

I like the clarification that Putin is anti-Communist. He does, however, acknowledge the Czarist authority of the king, indistinguishable from the leader of the Politburo. Putin may hate communism but he loves everything about it.

44 posted on 04/09/2022 9:57:58 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (Contempt is the essential tool of the tyrant.)
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To: Sirius Lee

Appreciate it.....but this guy ain’t worth it.....to be honest none of ‘em are.


45 posted on 04/09/2022 9:58:22 AM PDT by V_TWIN (America...so great even the people that hate it refuse to leave)
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To: hardspunned
It's common knowledge that Trump was impeached for trying to turn over the rocks our, now, Ukrainian hero partners and DC oligarchs were hiding under.

No, that isn't "common knowledge" at all. It's actually a fringe opinion. Plenty of Democrats, both rank and file ordinary people and elected politicians, hated Donald Trump from the very start for reasons that have absolutely nothing at all to do with Ukraine.

46 posted on 04/09/2022 10:00:16 AM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: KC Burke
Appeasement has never worked

The notion that Putin has a right to dictate the politics of the nation states around him is infantile. It the sort of surrender monkey dogmas the State Department clown show is always pushing

The US has had a Russian client state 90 miles off it coast since the 1960s. It a little place called Cuba. We had no right to dictate to them their choice in allies, neither does Putin.

The Alex Jone’s Right constant spinning to try make excuses for Putin barbarism and criminality is without any intellectual or moral merit.

If this sort of surrender monkey dogma had been followed during the Cold War the US and the West would of lost it,

47 posted on 04/09/2022 10:04:52 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (They would have abandon leftism to achieve sanity. Freeper Olog-hai)
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To: KC Burke
I don't give a rat's ass what this poonjabber Hindu fakir says. Upper-caste ultra-privileged moron has spent most of his life kissing the British rear of his recent oppressors. His brother is a radical shit-stirring Marxist in India. And I have the receipts:

"It was during his thirteen years as a law student, and then lecturer, at Oxford that Tunku “fell in love with England—the country, its history, its people.” He loved both its adventurous and its phlegmatic side. “The two cultures I most relate to are the Indian, and the classical, educated, cerebral English,” he enthuses gently in an Oxbridge-inflected accent. (Every inch the donnish patrician, he affects disdain for the jury system on the grounds that he considers very few people to be his peers.) “At Oxford I loved the English approach to enquiry and debate, to conversation, food, drink—especially drink. It was all that a civilised young man would hope for in life.”

The family are Tamil Brahmins. The Tam Bram community has traditionally, and famously, been a strict and even supercilious one, emphasising pedigree, piety and fierce intellect. Different aspects of the tradition seem to have rubbed off on them both. Tunku declares himself “a proper Hindu”, insisting on an anti-chauvinist strain that must be “fought for and protected” against “the Hindutva brigade”.

Another subject on which he square cuts the ball, deploying no shortage of provocative catch phrases, is Wikileaks. He has called Julian Assange a “fraud”

Decrying Wikileaks’ “callous nihilism”, the elder Varadarajan is “deeply suspicious of anyone who wants to “smash the state” or “stop war”—all these vulgar bombastic slogans which people wield as a way to end conversation and debate."

*spit*

48 posted on 04/09/2022 10:05:06 AM PDT by StAnDeliver (Enjoy the goosestepping parade of Putlim Soviet c!rclejerkers lining up for the Tedlim-style putsch)
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To: KC Burke

The bizarre thing is they were a long, long way from qualifying for membership. Their corruption history alone would disqualify them for at least 5 years.

Biden’s comment about a little incursion was idiotic as well.


49 posted on 04/09/2022 10:07:43 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: Louis Foxwell

Well stated. Thanks.


50 posted on 04/09/2022 10:08:58 AM PDT by rrrod (6)
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To: KC Burke

JOE BIDEN and KAMALA HARRIS....


51 posted on 04/09/2022 10:11:08 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Dilbert San Diego

“Was Trump impeached due to getting too close to revealing certain things that the powers that be want to remain hidden?”

Clearly. And the Ukrainian spy dressed up in an American Army uniform, Vindman, ran out of the meeting to let his handlers know that the President was opening up a window on the operation.

If anyone thinks it’s normal for a foreign born guy to end up in the White House with the kind of clearances that requires is unaware of the way our system works. Extraordinary is a small word for it.

So why was he there? Because he was put there...to keep an eye on Don Trump.


52 posted on 04/09/2022 10:27:53 AM PDT by Regulator (It's fraud, Jim)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

https://euroweeklynews.com/2022/02/20/has-nato-reneged-on-a-1991-agreement-with-russia/

Biden screwed this up by sending Kamala over instead of the secretary of state. She spouts off that Ukraine should just join NATO. then we have the training of Nazi’s by the US. Then Slow Joe spouts off that Putin has to be removed, genius. So Biden can declare the removal of a foreign countries leader. How is Russia or Europe any of our business?


53 posted on 04/09/2022 10:46:34 AM PDT by foundedonpurpose (Praise Hashem, for his restoration of all things!)
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To: rrrod

They never are. I just call it the way I see it.


54 posted on 04/09/2022 11:44:12 AM PDT by McGavin999 (To shut down the border tell the administration the cartel is smuggling Ivermectin )
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To: Louis Foxwell

Everything except “Obama is charming”; I never found that to be the case. He’s pernicious, sneering, snotty, condescending, imperious, an outright liar, hostile to the Constitution, a pasted-on smile to go with his extended right hand, with cold steel behind his back in his left.

For those of us who can see through him, Obama is as “charming” as Pennywise.


55 posted on 04/09/2022 11:57:58 AM PDT by HKMk23 (https://youtu.be/LTseTg48568)
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To: McGavin999

Possible, however Eastern and Southern Ukrainian states seceded from Ukraine in 2014. Are these ex-Ukrainians interested in resources for Russia too?


56 posted on 04/09/2022 12:03:45 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Probably they were Russia supporters implanted before the taking of Crimea. My feeling about this from the start is if you want to be part of Russia then move to Russia. Otherwise it’s like a bunch of Mexicans deciding California should be part of Mexico.


57 posted on 04/09/2022 12:22:46 PM PDT by McGavin999 (To shut down the border tell the administration the cartel is smuggling Ivermectin )
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To: discostu
There’s really no good reason for him to be uptight about NATO.

There was really no good reason for JFK to be uptight about Soviet missiles in Cuba.

Kinda puts things in a different perspective, doesn’t it?

If the U.S. could have a Monroe Doctrine, then Russia can have a Putin Doctrine. The end.

58 posted on 04/09/2022 12:26:53 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Mr. Potato Head ... Mr. Potato Head! Back doors are not secrets.")
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To: MNJohnnie
The US has had a Russian client state 90 miles off it coast since the 1960s. It a little place called Cuba. We had no right to dictate to them their choice in allies …

And yet isn’t that exactly what we’ve been doing for 60+ years?

59 posted on 04/09/2022 12:29:55 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Mr. Potato Head ... Mr. Potato Head! Back doors are not secrets.")
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To: McGavin999

It’s not that simple. It’s complicated. Go back 100 years there was no Ukraine. There was Russia. Go back 300 years, much of Ukraine was Muslim controlled. I have pro-Russian relatives in Dneiperpetrovsk. 1 thing is certain…the official narrative is BS


60 posted on 04/09/2022 12:31:16 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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