Posted on 04/02/2022 7:43:21 PM PDT by SpeedyInTexas
Crimea yes, let the Russians keep it
Donetsk. Perhaps you don’t realise that the Russians have 1/3rd of the land since 2014 but have claims on the rest. Either they drop those claims or they leave.
As for Texas, California, you do realise that was 150+ years ago, right ?
I must have been sleeping that day in Econ class where the teacher laid out how cheering, "likes" and retweets cancel the effects of constricted supply.
Because the safety of the West vis a vis Russia is my business. And yours. It affects us and our fellow citizens. The safety of Ukrainians is none of your damn business. This is very very simple, even you can understand it if you try hard.
Mine too! Which is why I oppose Russia taking over random European countries, threatening NATO, and violating every arms agreement they have ever signed. Same thing for China.
150 years doesn’t change the moral validity of the claims. When America evacuates Texas and California we can discuss Russia leaving Donetsk. For that matter they have historical claims on the Ukraine as a whole. The Kyiv Rus founded Russia in Kiev - now Ukraine. Maybe Ukraine owns Russia. Maybe the other way around. We can argue in circles but Donetsk isn’t going back to Kyiv, ever.
The bottom line is it doesn’t involve America or the West. Stay out of it and face down China before the tranny American military is sent to the bottom of the South China Sea.
Threatening Ukraine doesn’t threaten NATO. NATO threatened Russia long before they threatened us simply by trying to put Ukraine into NATO. NATO dwarfs Russia militarily. It isn’t threatened any more than an ugly feminist claiming she is afraid of being raped. Just not gonna happen.
Sure send Ukraine weapons to end the war quickly. Kick ass but also sue for peace, go neutral. But end it now before it blows up bigly and you have no food or have an H-Bomb ruin your whole day.
150 years does change the situation. What was done in the 1800s is no longer statecraft in the modern world.
The Kyiv Rus didn’t “found russia”.
Kievan rus was a group of city states that were ruled by the rurikid family.
By your logic all of Russia and Ukraine should belong to Mongolia
You’re a typical American hypocrite. You have no right to judge Russia whatsoever. By YOUR logic your ridiculous nation belongs to the Indians.
Worry about your diarrheal “President”, your ridiotic Congress and political parties and your stupid Hollywood- led culture. America was a world leader and Americans, great people. Both are now a joke.
This isn’t 1960. You aren’t the leaders of the free world. There is no free world to speak of. Stay out of Russia’s business, deal with China. This is absolutely your last chance to survive against the ACTUAL threat. Your tranny military is maybe a decade away from being massacred. Enough with the Ukraine distraction.
LOL. Impressive rant. Unfortunately, you lose. Finland is about to join NATO. Putin and his cross eyed fag army are the best salesmen NATO have ever had.
Ohhhhh.. so “you Americans”.
Another Moscow based mouthpiece you be?!
Another Russia based Putin troll exposed.
Tell that to all the countries formerly under the iron curtain, and Chechnya, Georgia and now Ukraine today. Russia has violated, since the "fall" of the Soviet Union, every arms agreement they have ever signed with us. They have funded terrorism in South America through Communist groups like FARC. They have propped up our enemies in the middle east, such as Iran. They have given technology and secret support to the North Koreans. They are allies with every single communist country on Earth.
And worst of all, they are an adamantly anti-American power that demands our extermination, with the collapse of NATO and the conquest of Europe just being the first stages of their ultimate war against us.
You can deny all that. I don't really care. But that is the truth and that's why I don't turn a blind eye to what is going on in Europe. You said NATO dwarfs Russia militarily. Mexican bandits dwarf most of Europe militarily, with the exception of the UK and France. They have recently finally agreed to pay their due fees under NATO (though I think it should be even more), but it would be a long time before they have the military necessary to fight.
As for particular plans for Ukraine. Ukraine should make its own decision on how and when it will make peace. The US should not be in the position of telling other countries to give up parts of their territory to authoritarian powers. I support giving them the weapons and what they need to come to their own resolution in the conflict.
As for "go neutral," again, Ukraine should decide what it wants to do. Any country that meets the correct criteria can join NATO. If they meet the criteria, they can apply for joining same as any other country. Russia itself was offered this years ago, but Russia responded by asking to be put in charge of NATO, as their brazen arrogance demands.
in this case we aren’t going to evict a nuclear power by force, so it’s more acquiescence than support.
***Once the Ukes build their nukes they’ll “evict” Russia.
Crimea yes, let the Russians keep it
***Russia signed a border agreement in 1994. Let the Ukes keep those borders as per that agreement they both signed, along with our president.
simply by trying to put Ukraine into NATO.
***Ukraine WANTED to join NATO.
69% of Ukrainians want to join NATO, according to a June 2017 poll by the Democratic Initiatives Foundation
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-ukraine-nato-idUSKBN19V12V
The main reason pootypoot invaded was over oil&gas.
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4050958/posts
Worry about your diarrheal “President”, your ridiotic Congress and political parties and your stupid Hollywood- led culture. America was a world leader and Americans, great people. Both are now a joke. This isn’t 1960. You aren’t the leaders of the free world. There is no free world to speak of. ... Your tranny military is maybe a decade away from being massacred.
***Well, just dayamn. I totally disagree with you about Ukraine but you make some real points here.
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