Posted on 03/30/2022 6:28:27 PM PDT by dennisw
Flight tracking info suggests Putin may be in a hideaway near Surgut, in Siberia Defence minister Sergei Shoigu is believed to be in a bunker in Ufa, in the Urals Use of bunkers would be alarming as they suggest nuclear option is on the table
New evidence has emerged Vladimir Putin and his highest ranking commanders are running the war in Ukraine from top secret nuclear bunkers.
Movements of planes used by top Kremlin officials show Putin may be in a hideaway near Surgut, in western Siberia, it has been claimed.
His defence minister Sergei Shoigu - who has been mysteriously absent for several weeks, sparking rumours about his health - is believed to be in a bunker near Ufa in the Urals, 725 miles east of Moscow, according to investigative journalist Christo Grozev.
This theory is backed up by his daughter Ksenia Shoigu, 31, visiting Ufa for an estimated three days from March 22, with mounting speculation the defence minister is suffering from heart problems.
She also abruptly barred public access to her Instagram where she had posed with her baby in the blue and yellow colours of Ukraine.
The suspected use of the high security nuclear bunkers is concerning as it leads to suggestions Putin may be prepared to deploy nuclear weapons, a move that would lead to inevitable reprisals.
(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...
Well, Puttey was stupid enough to invade Ukraine with last century tech Soviet army, and thought he would win quickly on numerical superiority alone. He obviously thinks he has some sort of superiority on the west, and numerically, tactical nukes, he does.
Is it usable?
Is he an egomaniac who sees himself as a modern Peter The Great?
Is he in a position where, while not “existential” for Russia, as far as using nukes Puttey has put himself in a situation for himself which is existential for himself personally if he fails?
We may be in dangerous times, with a weak leader. Even OBambam said not to underestimate Brandon’s ability to F#@% things up...
;>)
*yawn* he wont even carpet bomb the cities in Ukraine, but you think he will use nukes?
LAMO
The Daily Smell tabloid propaganda needs to be added to the posting ban list.
Russian commanders are to be seen with boots on the ground. They go with the advances, and are seen everywhere on the battlefield, except in firefights, as doctrine. It is the same in the 82d Airborne Division where battalion commanders when deployed the LTC becomes COL for combat missions, and the brigade commanders become 1 Stars instead of a COL. Combat leaders rose up thru the ranks and many feel their place is to lead. If you got your leadership course from Colin Powell, he was a platoon leader in Viet Nam, but after that he spent his real formative years as an aide in either the congress or senate beholden to that individual and not IN the Army.
“I wonder if all those boxes of Saltines from the 1950s are still fresh?”
In the big Civil Defense cans? Those were wheat crackers. Yummy! :(
The anti Russian propaganda is really getting kray kray. 🙄
The Russian government has fallout shelters modernized and well stocked for civilians.
The US government has no such facilities—civilians are on their own.
That tells you all you need to know about the US government.
This reminds me to go to my fallout shelter t
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Don’t forget to clean out your air intakes - spider nests, old leaves, the rags your neighbors plugged them up with and so on.
I am sorry that you live your life in constant fear. Relax, we got this!
It’s not fear it’s anger!
;>)
I looked back a few days and found your comment:
I am not a military person, I have no idea what is possible.If you have never been in the military, you 've got nothing, let alone this!
I held a Top Secret clearance in the USAF and know things you never will.
Go play with something else besides international relations.
Fear is a choice we all make.
You choose to live your life in constant fear of a nuclear attack from Russia.
I choose not to.
If your fear is true, then Russia blows up the world and we all die, but in the meantime, I live my life happily.
If I am right, you live every day for the rest of your life in fear of something that never happens.
I am fine either way.
Good day.
All we have done for sixty or seventy years is tell a joke about bending over, putting our heads between our legs and kissing ourselves goodbye.
Soviet Civil Defense: Objectives, Pace, and Effectiveness
Having pointed out some of the areas where I believe Part II is inadequate as a policy statement, I , nevertheless, believe that the conclusions it reaches that Soviet civil defense measures can objectively be circumvented in a deterrence sense by periodic adjustments in U.S. targeting plans and that an attempt by the United States to match Soviet civil defense efforts would not be advisable are essentially correct. However, what is necessary to successfully meet the challenge in the perceptual realm is an open issue deserving much greater attention by both the Congress and the Administration than it has been given to date.The Senator seemed only interested in perception.Edward W. Brooke
United States. Congress. Joint Committee on Defense Production · 1977 ·
Civil Preparedness Review: Industrial defense and nuclear attack
We got way too close to having an accidental nuclear war in the 1960's, during the Cuban missile crisis (most people seem to have forgotten about that). Accidents can still happen, because people are unpredictable, and Murphy's Law is always waiting in the wings for a chance to take center stage. I don't live life in fear of nuclear war, OR in fear of losing my life savings; the latter because I have enough sense not to bet everything I own at the craps table, and the former because (so far at least) this country has had enough respect for the risks involved, to NOT get into a shooting war with a country armed with nukes...
So would we.
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