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Ukraine: What have been Russia's military mistakes?
bbc.com ^ | March 19, 2022 | Jonathan Beale

Posted on 03/18/2022 5:50:13 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper

Russia has one of the largest and most powerful armed forces in the world, but that has not been apparent in its initial invasion of Ukraine. Many military analysts in the West have been surprised by its performance on the battlefield so far, with one describing it as "dismal".

Its military advances appear to have largely stalled and some now question whether it can recover from the losses it has suffered. This week, a senior Nato military official told the BBC, "the Russians clearly have not achieved their goals and probably will not at the end of the day". So what has gone wrong? I have spoken to senior Western military officers and intelligence officials, about the mistakes Russia has made.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Russia
KEYWORDS: deagitprop; jonathanbeale; mi6agitprop; putinstooges; schwabagitprop
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To: bayliving
Hope Russia invades your neighborhood next.

That's a completely asinine take.

I'm more mad at Washington & at my local/state reps for shutting down small businesses, forced mask mandates, and vaccine passports, than Putin.

Both Bill & Hillary, Obama, and everyone in D.C. all kissed Putin's rear prior to Trump taking office and all of a sudden he's the devil because he won't play ball with the global elites?

Get the Hell out of here

41 posted on 03/18/2022 7:18:45 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (The GOP is the UN of US politics)
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To: buwaya
I think you have missed some of your history.

I think you're high on Fetanyl.

Ukraine is a totally created country. Like Belgium.

It is as much as part of Russia as Texas is to the U.S. when it was briefly under Mexico & then liberated.

42 posted on 03/18/2022 7:21:44 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (The GOP is the UN of US politics)
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To: bayliving

If measured by the sheer value of the wealth at stake in the corrupt systems of the US, you are correct. The US is the greatest banana republic that ever was.

Ukraine was just an occasion for some penny ante Americans to skim US aid, a small change operation on a global scale. These characters were scum, but this world has vastly bigger scum.


43 posted on 03/18/2022 7:22:06 PM PDT by buwaya
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Russia sent about 1,200 main battle tanks into the Ukraine, and has lost about a third of them so far.

A bit under 10,000 vehicles of all kinds were committed. Just the single shipment that Biden announced Wednesday, is enough to destroy every one of them that remains (2,000 javelins, 6,000 AT-4s, 1,000 LAWs). That is just $800 million, out of the over $13 billion just authorized for the Ukraine in the newly enacted budget.

Javelins can do tanks, the others can do all the other types of vehicles. Javelins have a better than 95% probability of kill, with a minimally trained operator. That shipment announced Wednesday (16 March), out of inventory (drawdown), will likely be completely in Country next week.

The last authorized shipment from the USA (in recent weeks) had 2,600 Javelins. The UK has delivered their first shipment of 2,000 NLAWs (Javelin equivalents), and they are reported to be sending more. Germany sent 1,000 anti-tank weapons, including Javelins. Poland and the Baltic Countries sent some unreported number of Javelins, The Ukraine had been buying a few hundred Javelins per year during the Trump Administration, so they had some inventory.

In addition to those top of the line near guaranteed kills, tens of thousands of various anti-armor Infantry (Shoulder-fired) weapons have flooded into the Ukraine - AT-4s, RPGs, Panzerfausts, etc. - from about two dozen Countries, even far away Australia. The Ukrainians have also demonstrated effective capability to kill Russian vehicles with artillery, mines and Bayraktar drones.

Also in just this Wednesday’s package were 800 Stingers. About 1,000 Stingers in total were provided to the Mujahedin in Afghanistan over three years - often credited with driving the Soviet Union out of Afghanistan. The USA, the UK and Germany have already delivered similar sized packages of Stingers and Western equivalents. Other NATO members have already delivered large numbers of Russian/Soviet equivalents, like SA-7s (Strela) and SA-14s (Strela-3).

The great bulk of that arms transfer (among the largest and quickest in history) did not start until after the invasion, and did not start arriving to make much of an impact the first week. But last week (the third week) Russian advances came to near halt, Nationwide. Mariupol was cut off before the heavy resupply (AKA, the Cavalry) arrived. The other cities are now bristling with them, and there is a growing mountain with which to equip offensive operations (even if it is just widespread hit and run sniping, but I anticipate more than that).

Russia had its period of free reign bombarding cities, that is now cresting, with the depletion of their stocks of stand off weapons (Kalibr cruise missiles and Iskander SSMs). Russian tube artillery units are experiencing increasing losses in hostile territory that they do not actually control after passing through it, and it seems likely that they will come under increasing pressure over the next week or two.

Maintaining bombardment of the cities requires mountains of artillery shells that would have to be trucked in, at a time when they have been struggling to even get enough food and fuel for their forces. The Eastern axis of advance toward Kiev from Sumy has not been able to secure its line of communication (supply) and has repeatedly collapsed.

Artillery units are easily located by drones, by local spotters on the ground from their sound, and by the counter-battery systems that have been provided to the Ukrainians over the last two weeks. The Ukrainians have begun to successfully counter attack them (with Bayraktar drones, counter-battery artillery, air strikes and ground assaults) notably around Kharkiv and Kiev.

The scale of the Russian operation far exceeds the resources they have to execute it - under 200,000 troops for an amount of frontage equivalent to what the Nazis committed 3 million (and failed).

The rule of thumb is that you need 3 to 1 superiority in numbers on the offense. Russia went in with about 1 to 1 against the Active Ukrainian Army (about 200,000 each), but the Ukraine has since activated hundreds of thousands of Reservists and Territorial Defense Forces, plus an unknown number of volunteers (likely a lot). Over two million men were subject to recall in the Ukrainian Army Reserve alone. Although only a (significant) fraction of them will likely suit up and pull triggers before this is over, a significant fraction of men not legally subject to Reserve recall will likely do so as well.

The Russian tooth to tail ratio is also unsustainable. They have already committed somewhere between 55-70% of the ground combat power in their Military. They have a lot of inoperable old tanks rusting away in inventory, and a lot of conscripts a few months out of High School - but actual complete units, trained, equipped and ready to fight - not so much. The USA had around 25% of its combat power committed in Vietnam.

Also, the Russian sustaining base (Factories, Arsenals, Depots, Transportation) is dramatically weaker, in relative terms. They will not be sending the Cavalry to the rescue. The manufacture of additional cruise missiles for example, would take them months, even if sanctions did not target key components, which they do. They are heavily dependent on rail transport, and can’t use it, because the tracks run through the cities that they are unable to capture.

They can’t do much low altitude bombing of cities because of the flood Stingers and other short range air defense weapons. S-300s are now on the way, in case they decide to shift to high altitude bombers over cities with dumb bombs (a war crime that will initiate a powerful reaction). Chemical and nuclear weapons would of course bring even stronger International reaction. The only targets for such weapons are cities full of civilians.

Russian forces are facing an epic ass kicking in the coming weeks.

Math (logistics) will have its day. The economic and manufacturing power of the Arsenal of Democracy is behind the Ukrainians.


44 posted on 03/18/2022 7:22:47 PM PDT by BeauBo
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Putin is an independently dangerous man. Rome had enemies within and without, and only occasionally did either have anything to do with each other.


45 posted on 03/18/2022 7:24:19 PM PDT by buwaya
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

You are the one cheerleading the destruction of Ukraine because their government is the most corrupt ever in the history of the universe. You don’t seem to mind the death and destruction of the people of Ukraine who want nothing but to be left alone and to live their lives in peace.

Those people seem to be acceptable collateral damage to you because Fk Ukraine and yay Putin!

How about YOU get the hell out of here you Putin apologist?


46 posted on 03/18/2022 7:27:03 PM PDT by bayliving
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To: BeauBo

I look forward to reading books about Putin’s ultimate failure for years to come.

Thank you for taking the time to post your very good analysis.


47 posted on 03/18/2022 7:28:49 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: bayliving

“Hope Russia invades your neighborhood next.”

Funny you should mention that, because I was visiting Brooklyn the other day, when Putin suddenly recognized the independence of the ethnically and linguistically Russian Brighton Beach Republic. Just managed to slip a cruise missile...


48 posted on 03/18/2022 7:30:49 PM PDT by BeauBo
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

But Belgium is the direct descendant of what once was the Spanish Netherlands. This old entity absolutely had an ethnic consciousness at the time, and still does. You chose a bad example.


49 posted on 03/18/2022 7:31:09 PM PDT by buwaya
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To: Greenpees

Funny thing is, we wouldn’t be having this conversation if Russia didn’t decide to invade because... Nazis

Sort of like me burning down my neighbors house with them in it for belonging to a political party I don’t agree with...


50 posted on 03/18/2022 7:32:17 PM PDT by bayliving
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Are you Putin’s Mom?


51 posted on 03/18/2022 7:34:25 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (We're a nation of feelings, not thoughts.)
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To: buwaya

I never defended Putin or said he was a Saint.
How would you feel if a coalition of Latin American countries were formed by China and presented itself on our border?
Just leave Russia alone is all I’m saying.


52 posted on 03/18/2022 7:53:59 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (The GOP is the UN of US politics)
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To: bayliving

Putin has made it clear he’s not targeting civilians.


53 posted on 03/18/2022 7:55:15 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (The GOP is the UN of US politics)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

“Putin has made it clear he’s not targeting civilians.”

And you believe that?!?! GTFOOH!!!

Are you this stupid naturally or do you have to work at it?


54 posted on 03/18/2022 8:01:20 PM PDT by bayliving
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Being Spanish, my political project is to restore the Spanish Empire under the Bourbon dynasty. Yes, it is something of a stretch goal, but there we are.

However, your comparison is invalid, because that isn’t the Ukraine situation.

Imagine, rather, a British invasion of the US in 1810, to return it to British rule. Thats precisely whats going on in Ukraine.


55 posted on 03/18/2022 8:10:11 PM PDT by buwaya
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
You can't possibly believe that Russia has lost thousands of men in a 3 week old war against a "country" that used to belong to them.

Just 6 days into the war, on March 2, the Russian Defense Ministry itself said that 498 Russian troops had been killed, and 1597 killed. Those are Moscow's own numbers. 16 more days later, 2000 dead total is entirely reasonable.

56 posted on 03/18/2022 8:15:04 PM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin ( .)
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To: Monterrosa-24

Respects and prayers for your extended family in Ukraine. As you have family there, can you tell us, are you still in direct contact, can you still phone or text? Just wondering if the comm infrastructure still exists and if you get reports beyond the minimal number of reports that we see repeated all day long on the major media stations.


57 posted on 03/18/2022 8:37:35 PM PDT by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic...)
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To: buwaya

Imagine, rather, a British invasion of the US in 1810, to return it to British rule. Thats precisely whats going on in Ukraine.
***That is a pretty apt analogy.


58 posted on 03/18/2022 8:40:22 PM PDT by Kevmo (Give back Ukes their Nukes https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4044080/posts)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Putin has made it clear he’s not targeting civilians.

ROFLOL. You just posted earlier that you are not supporting Putin. Then here you are promoting the biggest dumba$$ lie from Putin.

59 posted on 03/18/2022 9:27:44 PM PDT by Moorings
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To: buwaya
Yeah, we are being told that Ukraine did not get permission from Russia to set up their own country. So Putin is not really invading Ukraine, he is just quelling an uprising in his own territory. Ukraine needed permission from Putin to have their own country. Their territory is not really theirs.

These are some of the posters on "Free Republic".

60 posted on 03/18/2022 9:31:52 PM PDT by Moorings
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