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Russian commander of the 8th Combined Arms Army of the Southern Military District: Lieutenant General Andrey Mordvichev was eliminated today
Twitter | 3/18/2022 | Sputnik ATO via Allen@SquireDigital

Posted on 03/18/2022 3:30:34 PM PDT by Zhang Fei

Photo of general:

Org chart position:



TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: 8thguards; 8thguardsarmy; biden; putin; russia; seals; sealteam; sealteam6; sealteamsix; ukraine; usn
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To: Tallguy

If Ukraine is going to fight urban war in cities, I can’t blame Russia for attacking the same cities.


141 posted on 03/18/2022 6:59:04 PM PDT by entropy12 (Blockade of Cuba by USA was OK, but NATO weapons seeking Ukraine invasion not acceptable to Neocons!)
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To: delta7

That’s a big issue, that he’s pushing the west to war. We need to avoid that at all costs.


142 posted on 03/18/2022 6:59:29 PM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: Berlin_Freeper

He doesn’t want to control the country. He has been quite clear what he is doing there.


143 posted on 03/18/2022 6:59:48 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: freeandfreezing

Getting most from people I know there both sides.


144 posted on 03/18/2022 7:00:06 PM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: one guy in new jersey

My information probably is limited to WW2 & Cold War. I think your correct. Haven’t read or heard of a Russian colonel-general since soviet days.


145 posted on 03/18/2022 7:02:18 PM PDT by Tallguy
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To: Bulwyf

So long as former comedian Zelensky was pushing for NATO membership, Russia is not going to stop turning Ukraine into a heap of rubble. We did the same thing to Cuba by attacking that sovereign country by blockading all it’s ports when USSR weapons were discovered in Cuba just 90 miles from US border. I am guessing Russia does not want NATO weapons on it’s border, because Ukraine is not 90 miles away, it is right smack on Russia’s border.


146 posted on 03/18/2022 7:03:10 PM PDT by entropy12 (Blockade of Cuba by USA was OK, but NATO weapons seeking Ukraine invasion not acceptable to Neocons!)
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To: buwaya

“Thats why their Army=US Corps”

But their Division is equivalent to an American Brigade, so their Army is back being the equivalent of an American Division. Google it. Or look at the org chart in the first post on this thread.


147 posted on 03/18/2022 7:07:10 PM PDT by BeauBo
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To: entropy12
The US invaded Cuba during the missle crisis? Seriously?
148 posted on 03/18/2022 7:09:05 PM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: entropy12

Putin doesn’t want Ukraine. He was tired of the Nazis and the donbas shelling. He also wants to find those responsible for the Odessa massacre in 2014.


149 posted on 03/18/2022 7:09:07 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: MarMema

Well how about you fill in the details of how Putin intends to keep Ukraine in check?


150 posted on 03/18/2022 7:10:57 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: delta7

Putin is destroying Ukraine.
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A huge portion of the non western world believes Zelensky is destroying Ukraine. I tend to agree.


Actually, I believe that in fact, Putin has now destroyed Russia, and whatever “good” reputation Russia had in the last two decades.

I believe further, that it will take at least 30 years for Russia to be able to get close to regaining its reputation... for economic, military, diplomatic, or moral power.


151 posted on 03/18/2022 7:15:33 PM PDT by AFPhys ((Liberalism is what Smart looks like to Stupid people - ® - Mia of KC. Rush - 1:50-8/21/15))
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To: Zhang Fei

I think we only lost 5 or 6 Generals to enemy action in WW II. Less than died in plane crashes.


152 posted on 03/18/2022 7:17:39 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Bulwyf

[Russia is stomping the place. You knew what I meant. I want civilians to stop suffering while at the same time avoid the west being drawn in.]


During the Polish war of independence, Poland lost probably ~100,000 dead while killing ~60,000 Russians.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish%E2%80%93Soviet_War

Ultimately, Ukraine needs to inflict enough of a toll on Russia to persuade its rulers that the cost-benefit ratio doesn’t compute. Written guarantees mean nothing. The Budapest Memorandum, which guaranteed Ukraine’s undivided sovereignty, was torn up by Putin in 2014, when he invaded Crimea and took parts of the Donbass.

Remember when Hitler said, after annexing Czechoslovakia, “This is my last territorial demand in Europe”? That’s about what agreements with Russia are worth.

Russia lost 5,700 men in Chechnya in the first campaign, which lasted just under 21 months. It came back for a second round, in which it lost 7,000 men over 9 months, but prevailed. If Ukraine can inflict 100,000 KIA on Russia over the next 2 years, I suspect the Russian appetite for future invasions will be sated for at least the next few decades.

Pilsudski’s Miracle on the Vistula, which secured Poland’s independence after centuries of Russian rule, killed 60,000 Russians. As a target, 100,000 dead Russians is probably on the conservative side, but the costs of war on native soil are so large that it probably pays to buy a little insurance.


153 posted on 03/18/2022 7:25:24 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: Tallguy

To this commenter, the Navy’s Officer rank structure

Navy, Coasties:
O-10:Fleet Admiral
O-10:Admiral
O-9: Vice-Admiral
O-8: Rear Admiral
O-7: Rear Admiral Lower Half
O-6: Captain
O-5: Commander (Full Bird)
O-4: Lieutenant Commander
O-3: Lieutenant
O-2: Lieutenant Junior Grade
O-1: Ensign

Was more straightforward and easy to remember than the Army’s:

Army, Air Force, Marines:
O-11:General of the Army
O-10:General
O-9: Lieutenant General
O-8: Major General
O-7: Brigadier General
O-6: Colonel (Full Bird)
O-5: Lieutenant Colonel
O-4: Major
O-3: Captain
O-2: 1st Lieutenant
O-1: 2nd Lieutenant

and, the fact that full birds in the Navy were of lower rank than full birds in the Army was just overall confusing.

The Russians seem to have only four flag officer ranks, at least in the Army, and not five flag officer ranks as in the U.S. Army and the U.S. Navy.


154 posted on 03/18/2022 7:29:20 PM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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To: entropy12

“You probably too young to remember Cuban missile crisis...so we INVADED SOVEREIGN country of Cuba 90 miles away by completely blockading entire Cuba”


Alas, I’m old enough to remember the Cuban missile crisis all too well. We did not invade Cuba, although a naval blockade is an act of war. I believe the term we used at the time was a ‘quarantine of shipping’ into Cuba to avoid admitting to an act of war.

As a result of the Cuban missile crisis, we pulled our missiles out of Turkey, USSR did the same with its missiles out of Cuber and, maybe most importantly, we agreed to make no move against the Cuban Communist government in the future.

I’m not saying that Russia doesn’t have reasons to be unhappy with Ukraine, but the fact still remains that Ukraine didn’t invade anyone and Russia did. Russia and Putin rightly deserve the condemnation they are receiving. I believe that Russia believes that Ukraine, Belarus, the Baltic nations and even Finland really should belong to them since all were part of the old Russian Empire.


155 posted on 03/18/2022 7:30:08 PM PDT by hanamizu
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To: Mr. Lucky

What would you say if Chinese navy blocks all US ports? A friendly visit by Chinese sailors to visit city prostitutes?


156 posted on 03/18/2022 7:32:08 PM PDT by entropy12 (Blockade of Cuba by USA was OK, but NATO weapons seeking Ukraine invasion not acceptable to Neocons!)
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To: entropy12

[So long as former comedian Zelensky was pushing for NATO membership, Russia is not going to stop turning Ukraine into a heap of rubble. ]


So long as 100,000 Russians aren’t sent home in body bags, Russia will not stop trying to turn Ukraine into rubble. That’s why Zelensky cannot stop. The ideal would be a repeat of Pilsudsky’s feat, the Miracle on the Vistula that established, until the Russians connived with the Germans to start WWII, an independent Polish state.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish%E2%80%93Soviet_War


157 posted on 03/18/2022 7:33:52 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: BeauBo

The Ukrainians endured even higher casualty rates in WWII than the Russians.
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Ukraine became a nation in 1991. There was a brief time in 1918 that area declared independence but it lasted a year or so before being absorbed back into Russia. I liken it to the Donbas area, those two “ Seperatists”provinces declared their independence from Ukraine a week or so before Vlad made his move. That said, I find it interesting Zelensky does not even speak Ukrainian, but Russian. Maybe because Kiev was Russia’s first Capitol?


158 posted on 03/18/2022 7:37:30 PM PDT by delta7
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To: OKSooner; one guy in new jersey
Not quite right on the US Flag ranks.
                     Army                   Navy
One Star   - Brigadier General    Rear Admiral (lower half)
Two Star   - Major General        Rear Admiral (upper half)
Three Star - Lieutenant General   Vice Admiral
Four Star  - General              Admiral
Five Star  - General of the Army  Fleet Admiral

During WWII, the British promoted Montgomery from Full General to Field Marshal, he then out-ranked his boss, the Supreme Commander of the Allied Expeditionary Forces - General Eisenhower. Congress was thinking of just copying the Field Marshal rank, however the Army Chief of Staff General Marshall did not wish to be known as “Marshal Marshall”, so the Five Star Army rank title became “General of the Army”.

The last officer promoted to the Five Star General of the Army rank was Omar Bradley in 1950. The US has had no active duty Five Star since “General of the Army” Bradley died in 1981.

dvwjr

159 posted on 03/18/2022 7:39:23 PM PDT by dvwjr ( - )
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To: Zhang Fei

ZAP! Got one! Not even fitting for food for the dogs in the streets.


160 posted on 03/18/2022 7:40:39 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (RONALD REAGAN, over any American President, GOP or Dem, reflects my political/moral values)
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