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Putin's manpower problem: Russia 'is drafting in troops from Siberia and the Pacific as well as Syrians and mercenaries' in desperate attempt to get stalled Ukrainian invasion going after punishing losses
Daily Mail ^ | 3/16/2022 | Chris Pleasance

Posted on 03/16/2022 10:25:07 AM PDT by marcusmaximus

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To: marcusmaximus

And their incentive will be what exactly?


41 posted on 03/16/2022 11:33:52 AM PDT by SkyDancer ( I make airplanes fly, what's your super power?)
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To: elpadre

They are a newspaper. No newspapers are reliable. All are owned and push propaganda for the owner. Take everything with a grain of salt. They were pushing the “Ghost of Kyiv” early on.

Now if you need info on Lady Gaga’s latest touring schedule the Daily Mail is the place to be.


42 posted on 03/16/2022 11:33:54 AM PDT by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: marcusmaximus

dail mail propaganda is always good for a laugh.
This one is like how media said both Boosh and Rubio exceeded expectations in the 2016 iowa primRY. LOOK WHAT HAPPENED IN nH AND sc .......


43 posted on 03/16/2022 11:36:05 AM PDT by CarolinaReaganFan
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To: elpadre

How many Russians have relatives in Ukraine?... 🤔


44 posted on 03/16/2022 11:39:09 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: marcusmaximus

Enemy at the gates... Marching platoons of prisoners into the German positions but ensuring that a Soviet retreat wasn’t an option by placing Soviet machine guns behind the prisoner platoons who were getting slaughtered from the front...

Overwhelm the opposition worked in WWII and tactics are still driven by technology.

Using those same WWII tactics today could produce something very similar outcomes such as using Napoleonic era battle tactics against the accuracy of the minie ball during the American Civil War.

Technically and on scale of Zero to Full on brute force... both sides are only slapping each others face.

And more importantly, there is zero credibility of any information coming out of the region. Mostly reactionary reporting thus far.


45 posted on 03/16/2022 11:49:40 AM PDT by Clutch Martin (The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.)
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To: marcusmaximus

An observation....it isn’t like Russia proper is being counter-attacked. Everything is happening in Ukraine.

I fail to see how this is going badly. Badly is Russian soil is under counter attack and they are losing ground. It may not be the progress they envisioned, but it’s not a defeat either.


46 posted on 03/16/2022 11:59:27 AM PDT by Ouderkirk (The democRATS are not looking to govern, they intend to RULE.)
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To: BenLurkin

The Vietnam War was not popular, but around 99.99% of of drafted young American men in Vietnam followed the orders given.


47 posted on 03/16/2022 12:02:33 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Persevero

“Same with China. They want to rule the world but have gutted themselves with their murderous, horrifying one child policy.”

Demographics is destiny. By 2030, China will be overly populated by grandmas and grandpas. Meanwhile, India’s majority population will be under 30-years of age.

In a land war, India will crush China. The window for ChiComm hegemony and aggression is rapidly closing.


48 posted on 03/16/2022 12:02:48 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: SeekAndFind

One of the issue is Ukraine is the largest European country if yuo exclude Russia,

The maps showing solid areas controlled by Russia are inaccurate except for the Crimea and the oblasts of Luhansk and Dombas they previously invaded.

The reality is Russian forces are confined to extended penetrations along roadways w/o absolute control of the adjacent countryside.

That’s a problem.


49 posted on 03/16/2022 12:04:41 PM PDT by meatloaf
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To: marcusmaximus

I think the Russians want to seize the Russian-speaking area of eastern Ukraine by cutting it off from the rest of Ukraine, grab the Black Sea ports, and encircle Kiev to pressure the Ukrainian government to agree to Russian demands.


50 posted on 03/16/2022 12:06:32 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: marcusmaximus

How many days or weeks did Putin burn up beans and bullets screwing around with his troops prior to the invasion? I have no idea what the Order of Battle is but it seems to me they were out of garrison for quite some time.


51 posted on 03/16/2022 12:07:58 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (GoFundMe is a Democrat Scam)
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To: MercyFlush

“Conscript cannon fodder is not a professional military. As it stands the professional Russian military is getting bloodied by a third rate military that’s mostly a dispersed guerilla force.”

LBJ sent conscripts to Vietnam. These conscripts fought well and generally beat off Vietcong attacks.


52 posted on 03/16/2022 12:09:40 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: marcusmaximus

Daily Mail is an embarrassment. It’s reporting constant lies that are disproven usually within 48 hours.


53 posted on 03/16/2022 12:10:57 PM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually" (Hendrix) )
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To: marcusmaximus

“desperate attempt” “punishing losses”

I love the smell of propaganda in the morning....

Bwahahahahaha.


54 posted on 03/16/2022 12:11:03 PM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Agreed. All this may be true, half true, or total propaganda...but the reporting bias is clear.

I think it may come down to the civilians. Bombs and bullets may be needed to defeat another army but if you’re arguing you’re ‘liberating’ some section of their population you can’t do it without their compliance or by killing them all.

The Russian equipment does appear very dated. If it is as poorly maintained as some have claimed then this might have been a huge miscalculation of their real readiness and capability.


55 posted on 03/16/2022 12:11:48 PM PDT by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: Boogieman

I heard Japan is thinking of taking advantage of this distraction opportunity to reclaim the Kuril Islands.


56 posted on 03/16/2022 12:13:02 PM PDT by seowulf (Civilization begins with order, grows with liberty, and dies with chaos...Will Durant)
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To: SeekAndFind

Occupation requires at least a million troops - control is different but fleeting


57 posted on 03/16/2022 12:16:16 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: silent majority rising

Maybe our vaunted cia should engineer a war between Russia and China.

Russia is doing that all by itself by leaving the Sino-Russo border nearly undefended so Xi can make good on the CCP’s claim to all of Siberia.


58 posted on 03/16/2022 12:17:57 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: PIF

Putin’s corrupt and hollow army can’t beat Ukrainian farmers. We’re headed for another frozen conflict. Soon he’ll ceasefire and incorporate more stolen land into Russia.


59 posted on 03/16/2022 12:19:01 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: marcusmaximus

The story might be a bit understated. Those “Z” marked combat vehicles already seem to be from the Russian far east. Remember early on Ivan was showing pics of stuff moving by rail? That’s how they had to do it since those steel tracks aren’t good for much mileage.


60 posted on 03/16/2022 12:21:21 PM PDT by OldWarBaby
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