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Elon Musk calls for increase in US oil, gas production to combat Russia despite negative effect on Tesla
Fox business ^ | 03/04/2022 | Andrew Mark Miller

Posted on 03/04/2022 6:38:49 PM PST by ChicagoConservative27

Tesla co-founder and CEO Elon Musk called on the United States to increase its domestic oil output in response to Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, while also acknowledging that his electric car company would be negatively affected by that move.

"Hate to say it, but we need to increase oil & gas output immediately," Musk tweeted Friday. "Extraordinary times demand extraordinary measures."

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: elonmusk; increase; musk; oil; production; putinsbuttboys; putinworshippers; russia; russianaggression; spacex; starlink; tesla; ukraine; zot; zottherussiantrolls
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To: Empire_of_Liberty

I think it’s fair to say that Musk is now a conservative. Way to go liberals; this man should’ve been your greatest hero and role model.


21 posted on 03/04/2022 7:51:58 PM PST by dangus
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Lemme know when Honda’s electric lawmowers work.


22 posted on 03/04/2022 7:52:39 PM PST by dangus
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To: packagingguy

Another issue is energy wasted on transmission of electricity by lines.

Hydrogen fuel cells are the only truly viable way for electric cars


23 posted on 03/04/2022 7:52:47 PM PST by SPDSHDW (You get what you let occur with no resistance. Everything Joepedo n' felons do is on your head.)
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To: packagingguy

A non-starter.
The replacement costs of a failed battery pack is ridiculously high. The infrastructure is nearly nonexistent. The hazards related to Thermal Runaway are not worth the risk. The mileage is pathetic. The recharge times are Pathetic. The exotic materials and heavy metals make it a joke from an Environmental perspective. I could go on and on but, it’s getting late.
EV’s are a pipedream joke from an infrastructure, cost per mile and an environmental perspective.
I don’t know about you but, I’m not ever getting on a transcontinental EV aircraft. Ever.
Nor am I counting on a heavy transport Train or 18 Wheeler to deliver to me any goods in a cost-effective manner.
Too many people give these things too little thought.
Including the fact that we do not produce enough power nationally to support this. And, the fact our infrastructure is so very dated and simply cannot support this were we stupid enough to attempt it nationally.


24 posted on 03/04/2022 7:53:40 PM PST by ocrp1982 (In Christ All Things are Possible)
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To: ocrp1982
Hi, I have a question since you're MSEE. What do you think about a person getting an EV voluntarily (as opposed to the Democrats all but forcing everyone to get an EV)? I'm asking about things like the durability of the EV motors for 15 to 20 years (150K to 200K miles).

I 100% get the argument against a nationwide movement to everyone switching to EV's, the grid can't handle the load, especially during peak hours when everyone gets off work, etc. But I'm in an almost unique situation for a personal use of an EV. Last year I put a sizeable solar system (10 kW) onto my house with 30 kWh battery storage. I'm coming up on the 1-year anniversary (I installed it late spring) and it has produced 55% of all the power I consumed since then. (I'm not an EE, but I'm a software engineer, so I'm a data nerd at heart and heavily analyze the data export my solar inverter gives me by weekly dumping it into a SQL database and running queries against it.) I'm thinking an EV might be good for me because I believe I could get 40% of my power for "free" from my solar system on days I have excess power with nowhere for it to go (I don't sell power back to the grid).

I average 2.4 hours per day when my solar batteries are fully charged -- it'd be nice if that excess power was being put to use. Plus, my inverter has a feature that would let me power a separate electrical panel intermittently (only if my solar batteries at charged to a configured level, say 80%, with the idea that much would power my house through the night without pulling from the grid). On days I'd come home in the EV with, say, more than "half a tank" (of course it's battery charge level, not a tank, but I'm using the gas terms for the EV to distinguish from the solar system having a battery too), I'd plug it into an intermittently charged outlet (with the idea it won't stayed powered longer than my home solar batteries can hold enough charge to power the house through the night). But if I come home really needing a charge for my EV I'd plug it into a constantly powered outlet (knowing that some or all of that power would come from the grid and add to my power bill).

I've studied my driving habits, the avg hours of peak solar hours left when I get home from work each month, the avg # of days I work from home each month (leaving the EV charging during the day), the avg # of miles driven per week, avg # of kWh needed per day and per week to charge my normal 200-miles per week driving habits, etc. All of that I can figure out. I believe my estimates on that stuff will be about as accurate as the estimates I made on the solar system and battery throughput before I bought and installed them. (Patting myself on the back.)

The one factor I haven't been able to narrow down is the durability (read: maintenance required) on the variable speed electric motors within an EV like the F-150 Lightning I'm thinking about getting. So if you have any insight on that I'd greatly appreciate it. I like how the solar system has spared me some of the yuge electrical cost inflation over the past year, as well as the yuge natural gas inflation (because I converted my two nat gas appliances to electric last year too). I'd like to extend that to also giving me a hedge against gasoline price inflation (by getting an EV and letting that be the main car my wife and I drive).

Thanks, sir.

25 posted on 03/04/2022 7:59:36 PM PST by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: ocrp1982

Bump


26 posted on 03/04/2022 8:14:40 PM PST by Hodar (A man can fail many times, but he isn't a failure until he begins to blame somebody else.- Burroughs)
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To: Empire_of_Liberty

Too bad he’s not a US citizen, much less a NBC...


27 posted on 03/04/2022 8:20:57 PM PST by bigbob
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To: Tijeras_Slim

No Cheap Gas For You! Pelosi Slams Oil Companies, Says She’s ‘Not for Drilling on Public Lands’
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/4043664/posts


28 posted on 03/04/2022 8:28:10 PM PST by minnesota_bound (I need more hash brown patties! )
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To: proust

At least he’s being realistic. He may not be a conservative, but I would say he’s not likely a leftist, either.


29 posted on 03/04/2022 8:36:34 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Florida: America's new free zone.)
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To: ocrp1982

Exactly. They may have a market for those that drive short distances and have garage space at night to charge, however, millions and millions of people live in cities with street parking, apartment/condo complex parking lots, etc. I have not heard one word on how to address those areas let alone if the grid can support such high density use.

For example a nearby mill turned condos has maybe 150-200 cars in the lot. The average permanent home charger is 7,000 watts or ~30 amps at 240 volts. Lets say each spot has a charger and half of the 75 people come home from work at the same time, that’s a 500kw load. That’s probably the equivalent of WalMart on a hot summer day. I doubt the local grid can support that if repeated at every complex, house, etc.


30 posted on 03/04/2022 8:42:59 PM PST by matt04 ( )
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To: BiglyCommentary

The catch: it wasn’t just an abstract paperwork anomaly, buyers must actually go get it and take it away. Those playing number games got caught having to deal with real product.


31 posted on 03/04/2022 8:53:18 PM PST by ctdonath2 (Statistics don't matter when they happen to you.)
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To: ctdonath2

Speculators get kicked out of the contract a week before expiration. So no chance of them having to deal with delivery.


32 posted on 03/04/2022 9:07:20 PM PST by BiglyCommentary
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To: DIRTYSECRET

I used to hate EV’s but am warming up to the idea. Way fewer moving parts so less stuff to break. Plus less heat and noise and great torque.


33 posted on 03/04/2022 9:10:42 PM PST by BiglyCommentary
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To: bigbob

He’s a US citizen as well as South African citizen ( born in South Africa) as well as Canadian citizen (his mother is Canadian).


34 posted on 03/06/2022 5:57:02 AM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: ChicagoConservative27
we need to increase oil & gas output immediately,

Brandon has enacted hundreds of regulations to tie the hands of producers, all by plan. The GOP does nothing. Without Trump, the GOP is simply assistant Dems.

35 posted on 03/06/2022 5:59:01 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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